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Post by Fumbduckery on Mar 25, 2018 21:52:33 GMT -5
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Post by jahgentle on Mar 25, 2018 22:24:39 GMT -5
Now you are trying to set me up with Der Fuhrer posts. I comment then tomorrow morning South comes flying in with his yamaka and Scofield reference bible and we are off to the races.
nope, I'm not doing it
out of respect for HMF and the new bored I am no comment
turning over a new leaf here..fresh start..
I mean I want to comment with every fiber of my being..my insides are screaming..but nope lol
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Post by Fumbduckery on Mar 25, 2018 23:36:00 GMT -5
I have no comment on your no comment.
I am merely pointing out another reason why trying to take all the guns is not a good idea.
And no matter what those a-holes say, it is their full intention to take all of our guns. No matter how many phases they have to do it in.
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Post by jahgentle on Mar 25, 2018 23:52:07 GMT -5
Yeah I know. I disagree with the Hitler part but it doesn't matter I get your point and agree. It's a multi pronged attack and they are very patient but it's been alarming how much the agenda has sped up the last few years.
America needs to be defeated from within to form their NWO one word govt. The problem is as you know they control everything from the media to schools so they are controlling reality.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Mar 26, 2018 3:05:07 GMT -5
They've completely lost their minds since Hillary lost. They were so sure she was going to win, their globalization plan was going to go off without a hitch. They were going to be able to do whatever they wanted. Obama had laid that groundwork beautifully, she was just going to step in and finish it off. Easy as could be. Now that the boat got rocked, they have over tipped their hand they've become so blatant. They did not realize there were this many people out here in this country who were wary and paying attention and against it all. They've overplayed themselves so much they've actually gotten the attention of some people who were on their side in the beginning. Those people aren't willing to come over to the dark side because they hate Trump so much on a personal level, but at least they're aware now and paying attention. I still doubt it will be enough in the long run, too many people are programmed beyond repair.
As for the Hitler side, I really do not know that much about him to be honest, I've never studied him. The ins and outs of what he really did, I have no clue other than the popular story told in school. Maybe it was right or maybe not, I have no way of knowing, and I don't care to spend the time to try to know. So this angle of him using kids to take guns away, I have no idea if it's true or not. I just saw it posted somewhere else and thought I'd throw it out there. Because the gun grabbing is an important topic to me. I don't honestly believe they could pull it off, at least not right now all in one phase. That's why I believe they would do it in steps.
Do the elitists in the NWO plan to kill off a huge chunk of the world's population? I have no idea! I find it nearly impossible to believe, but as I just said the other day, if I don't know something first hand I never rule anything out. It's so bizarre to sit and look right in the eyes of some doctors I see, and have them tell me they know for a fact that the program is in place and it will happen.....because they personally know doctors who pulled out of it because they knew it was wrong....and yes, all those doctors who pulled out did "kill themselves" even though they told all their close friends and family they would never do that....they knew they were going to be murdered and warned of it, then they showed up in a creek with a bullet in their head. These doctors are extremely intelligent people, so it's hard to not believe them to some degree, they don't seem like the kind to be easily duped....and I do believe that they really honestly believe it. All of them have been preparing for a few years to survive completely off the grid when it happens.
I don't believe it yet and I'm not preparing, so I'm not a loony yet, but I just can't rule it out. One of the doctors told me a very detailed story about a place one of the now dead doctors had been training at before he tried to quit, way out in the middle of nowhere, the doctor was blindfolded before being taken there each time.....and they had railroad cars designed with floors that would open up and dump large quantities of dead bodies into large pits under the tracks. The railroad cars had no seats, they were just going to be filled with bodies, hauled to the pits and dumped into mass grave pits. It's sounds crazy, but this doctor said his friend convinced him it was real and was being set up and prepared to be used. It's insane. But possible I suppose. I don't know. The one doctor I know who is the most into this said it was supposed to happen in 2017. But when Hillary lost, it changed everything. So wow. I don't know! It seems too crazy. Like a bad sci-fi movie.
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Post by jahgentle on Mar 26, 2018 10:14:30 GMT -5
Your post is so interesting on so many levels it has my head spinning and I hardly know where to begin. It branches out in so many directions making it difficult to reel it in and keep it on any sort of straight line.
Agree about Hitler and WW2...we can't trust the media from five minutes ago so why bother with history at least in the he said, she said stories. Too much propaganda all around so who knows.
That's actually the reason I have no problem believing any of this or that they would do a population cull. You said you find it nearly impossible to believe and I'm genuinely curious as to why you feel that way. For me I just feel like of course they would with no problem and nothing surprising about the idea at all. I don't know that is the plan but I don't see it being any problem for the elites if it is their intent.
They had no problem doing it during WW2 or any other time in history and from their POV it was absolutely worth it, no question. They got their base in the ME(Israel) which I mean that alone is worth it not to mention selling arms to both sides...you could never calculate the dollars.And on top of that it moves the NWO forward another step in so many ways and they have always played the long game. Who cares if a bunch of peasants died?
As for who the actual elites are I don't know. Rothchilds, The Vatican, Wall street, City of London...the usual suspects and they are all connected and buddies. Of course there could be others above them too but it probably doesn't matter and there are puppets at every level. Not all puppets know they are puppets either. If I had to guess I would say Churchhill and Hitler were both actors and little else.
It's my opinion that people have a hard time believing it because it seems so evil to them but I don't really see these elites as evil, just different. Just humans in a different reality due to power which does corrupt.
I also think as a human race that just about everybody overestimates their own morals or doesn't realize that what they think of their morals is really nothing but their limited station in life. They think they have a strong sense of morals and ethics but that's only because they have never been tested and never will be. They have never tasted that kind of power so imagine they would be different in the same situation which they wouldn't.
If you were born with the power of Caligula you would act in pretty much the same manner as Caligula in all ways and the rest is fate. Anyone who thinks differently..well that's just their ego, pride and again false morals talking that have never been tested.
That's a huge part of what I love about the Bible and other religious texts. It shows the exact nature of humans and fate played out on a smaller scale so it's easier to see. You know some people read about King David and don't get it.."a man after God's own heart." A man that engaged in adultery with another man's wife then sent the husband off to get killed. People read that and think he's horrible or what's so great about this man?
What's so incredible and rare about a King David is that he had all that power and that's about all he did wrong and repented as soon as he realized what he had done. But we live in a delusional world where people have no idea what their morals are so just come out with.."I would never have done that! I'm more moral than David!"
So with no understanding of themselves or their own lack of untested morals they see these elites as some kind of psychotic monsters when really they aren't at all...just different. Fate and circumstances play such a big role and in God's eyes I could very well be a much worse person than Hitler ever was given my limited power and station in life.
As far as Hillary and Trump go I think this is such a lower level of the game it isn't even relevant. Again not saying I am right but I don't see why elections would ever be allowed to be real and this is all part of the plan too. And neither of those two would have any real power at all. less than puppets imo
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Post by Fumbduckery on Mar 26, 2018 13:58:08 GMT -5
Interacting with you is definitely interesting, you're one of the few people I "know" who don't think ideas like this aren't completely crazy. You read about it all over the internet and can find all kinds of info on YouTube from people who believe it's all real. I'm in the phase of being "open to it being possible" and have been for about two years. I guess I'm like most people, I can't wrap my head around leaders being evil enough to actually do it. I do also have a part of me that believes that couldn't actually pull it off. As far as Trump and Hillary just being part of the plan, the only issue I have with that is why would Trump be allowed to open so many peoples minds as to the evilness that exists in our government? The more eyes that get opened, the more difficult it would be to implement a depopulation. Otherwise I can totally see it as being possible.
The Caligula thing I completely agree with. Nobody can ever say with certainty how they would act in any situation that is totally foreign to them in their reality. Even if it means becoming less moral.
The other option I think is i pretty viable is if they're going to depopulate, do it by mass sterilization or really strict limits on the number of kids a family can have. Use all their propaganda powers to convince the world we are over populated and for the betterment of humanity we need to scale back over the next 50 years. Their propaganda machine works wonders at anything they apply it to.
And they can just go ahead and mass sterilize everybody against their will. There's the supposed tetanus vaccination in Kenya that supposedly sterilized 500k women. Something like that, how do we even know if it's true? If it is, how do we know it was an accident?
These doctors I see are all talking about a mandatory vaccination that is going to be forced on every single person in the US, and they are scared shitless of what's in it. Again they claim to have connections that swear they know for a fact it's going to be an evil vaccination. These doctors all believe things like pesticides, chem trails, and all kinds of other things, like vaccinations, are used to make us weak physically and hurt our bodies, on purpose. I don't buy into it, like anything else, but again I don't rule it out either. One doctor who is actually a friend of mine was pretty high up at a huge area hospital, and quit her job and started a new career treating autistic children. And she did it because her son was totally healthy and got vaccinated and became autistic. She has more kids than she can handle who have had the exact same thing happen. I believe her because she looks me in the eye and tells me her son was completely fine before the vaccine. I met her after that happened so I don't know 100% for sure, but she sure seems convincing.
The upshot of it is that I don't trust anybody to begin with. So of course I'm going to be open to anything being possible. To the point of world leaders being more evil than any movie that's ever been conceived. Hell yeah I believe it could be possible.
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Post by jahgentle on Mar 26, 2018 14:56:46 GMT -5
When it comes to the ground level and workers like doctors, lawyers, cops they will just go along with pretty much anything and can justify it to themselves. I'm not picking on those specific groups but just saying it's human nature again no matter what the profession. Go along to get along, a paycheck and all that.
Like the danger of the Nazi's wasn't that any of them for the most part were bad people but 'just following orders' which 99% of the time people will. People for the most part really don't like going against the grain and remain herd animals even when it crosses their so called morals. We have seen this tested in real life situations like the Stanford prison experiment and so many other cases real and simulated.
So the doctor thing doesn't surprise me at all and I've seen it in person and so have a good portion of Canada. As soon as the anti depressant craze took off here it didn't matter what your illness was they tried to prescribe these meds while ignoring the real problem. The biggest reason they did it was they were bribed by the drug companies and their salespeople. They threw away all medical ethics for a few dollars and nothing more. I sat in a doctors office with a 12 year old girl who had been in pain while the doctor tried everything in his power to manipulate her and I can't stress how creepy it was. It was like watching a pedo at work.
He was saying 'you know when I look at you I just see a very sad little girl..."
He just kept this up trying to get her to take an anti depressant while fully ignoring there may just be a real problem. Of course it turned out she had costochondritis and it took about 10 more doctors and a year or so's time to get the real diagnosis and there was no depression or 'sad little girl." Very evil stuff man for a paycheck and a very common experience in Canada.
It's just that most people again are that easily corruptible for a few bucks. I don't blame you for not trusting people. Our school teachers here are teaching 5, 6 year old's transgenderism, anal sex and insisting they can choose their gender. If you don't agree with this the children's services can and will take your child away and the police will come along with them to back it up...so you know it's all of them. Go along to get along, just following orders like good little Nazi's at all levels no matter how immoral or messed up the situation.
As for the world leaders we have seen the wars and mass atrocities in the past from Hiltler to Stalin to Pol Pot on and on through history so I don't find that hard to believe at all. WW2 was what just 70 years ago? Not like they or we have evolved since then in the least and I'd actually argue we have degenerated quite a bit the last few decades.
They are capable of anything IMO and we are all just ant's to them. With technology now there would be endless ways to do it so they would just pick the easiest most convenient path. bio weapons anything. In Europe it just looks like they are going to start a huge culture war with the mass immigration as I don't see any other reason for it..it's not like it's done out of compassion.
I could be wrong as I don't pay that much attention but what exactly has Trump done to wake anybody up to anything? For whatever reason I'm just not seeing that at all and he appears to be a third rate Alex Jones at best. Throw a few little bits of truth in there, the old controlled opposition but what has he really done and said beyond the fact CNN is full of crap which we already know..all media is state propaganda run by the CIA and they would most certainly be in on it all. They are probably writing his speeches.
I just can't get past he wouldn't be there if they didn't want him there and it wasn't all part of the game. The idea one man could beat the worlds elite seems as absurd as the Obama being a secret Muslim story line.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Mar 26, 2018 15:59:32 GMT -5
I think just the fact that Trump got elected and has run his mouth about draining the swamp has opened a lot of people's eyes. I do think he's tried to do some things and been blocked because the swamp is so deep and in such control. So if he's part of the plan I don't see why he was ever able to go around campaigning about draining the swamp and talking about a corrupt government. Why would they allow any of that to get stirred up? He's at least stirred it up. Maybe it's part of the plan to just keep people off balance and at each other, but they could have done that in many other ways that wouldn't have made the every day guy start wondering if our government really is corrupt.
The doctors I see are all "integrative" now. I saw a couple of holistic doctors, they're completely wacko in my opinion. I had one that had me go through a testing program with his on staff homeopathic nurse, it was an electromodal testing, and it was the hokiest most ridiculous thing I've ever gone through before. Complete BS.
I can't see any traditional doctors. I had a titanium dental implant installed 4 years ago, and had an unbelievable reaction to it. It stumped all my oral related doctors and regular doctors, nobody could find any thing causing my problems. Within a week of it being put in I ended up in ER three times and once by ambulance, and things just got worse after that. We ended up taking the implant out three months later out of necessity. I was definitely dying. I had 30 health problems I didn't have before the implant. Yet every doctor, dentist and oral surgeon involved insisted it wasn't the implant. We removed it finally, and the next day I had an incredible turnaround. It got better over the next few months, but to this day I'm not recovered. I got a severe heavy metal poisoning from it,and we haven't been able to remove the metals, my kidney function will not take it because it's so poor.
But to this day no regular doctor will admit I ever had a problem. They just stare like robots. The AMA and ADA tell them there's no such thing as titanium implant reactions and metal poisoning from it. But there's researchers who have proven there is, and there are biological dentists who have had enough patients go through this they know it's real. The very first scientific paper was recently published explaining scientifically that there is an issue and they explained how it happens. The thing is, it's only like .001 of the people in the world are vulnerable to it. I just happened to be one of the lucky ones. I now know of about 50 people all around the world who have experienced literally the EXACT same thing I did, word for word and symptom by symptom. But no regular doctor will admit it, yet. So I have to see alternative and integrative doctors and biological dentists. They are making things better, very slowly, but until my kidney function gets better we'll never fix it. And I'm getting old.
There's been recent talk of stem cell therapy doing wonders for people with kidney problems. I have a doctor who is being mentored in this process, and they have me at the top of their list if they can get funding--if they do, the treatments would be free for me. If they don't it would cost me $30,000. Technically I could cough that up, but it would hurt to do it. So I'm riding it out for now. And there's no real guarantee the therapy would even work. I'm still researching and lining up new doctors to see. Apparently a lot of stem cell treatments are turning out to be pretty much a hoax. But I have gone through at least 50-60 doctors in the last 5 years, between other problems I had prior to the implant and since then. I have ended up with 3-4 I like and trust, the rest have been completely worthless crap. I can tell within 2 minutes of talking to a doctor now. I've stopped several two minutes in, stood up, said this ain't gonna work, thanks for your time anyway. And that's after going through many painful hours researching each doctor. My opinion of doctors couldn't be any lower. And yes, they want put everybody on as many of the very most expensive meds as they can, I have no doubt they get real nice kickbacks for doing it.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Mar 26, 2018 17:00:45 GMT -5
We can bring up certain names as long as we do so logically and we don’t come off looking like an extremist site.
Everything should be fine unless subject matter or content makes us look like we are neo-Nazi’s, antisemitic, or extremists of any sort. We can talk about Christians or Muslims.. whatever, just use common sense and be careful with anything that is obviously inflammatory.
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Post by jahgentle on Mar 26, 2018 18:08:54 GMT -5
I actually laughed hearing about your health problems and doctors as I've been down the same road and we both have that dark humor about it all. I mean how cosmically absurd it all started with a tooth filling. But obviously I do wish you well and hope nothing more than you overcome it all. This clip is pretty accurate in capturing what I go through or at least how it starts. '2nd headache attack in 24 hours' It usually starts like that. They last between 45 min to 2 hours on average and within days the frequency increases. Then it's in 3 in 24 hours,then 4, 5... Then it starts hitting me in my sleep every time so sleep becomes impossible. Within 10 to 30 minutes of being asleep I wake up with this blow torch in my head. I have no words for the fear, terror, pain it causes. It's not long of course before I'm not sleeping at all so now I'm up 24 hours a day with the headaches still coming. I have went weeks, maybe a month with a couple of hours sleep at most and up to 10 of these headaches a day. And the whole ordeal can last for 9 plus months out of the year and usually did in the past. That was the average or norm for 25 years of my life. After awhile you don't really know if you are awake or asleep anymore but in a sort of dream state like the Fight Club or The Machinist movie with Christian Bale and always in pain. It's a sick, twisted dark sort of twilight state where there is nothing to do but wait for the next attack. Like that clip I've come out that state not knowing where I was or how I got there..often in the bathroom, the floor in another room or the ER hooked up to morphine IV with no memory of how I got there or who took me. I'll slam my face off the floor repeatedly until I pass out covered in blood. the actual impact of slamming my face off the floor is less painful than the headache attack itself. and the nightmare just goes on and on day after day, month after month days that never end when you don't sleep and always in screaming pain I did surprisingly get diagnosed properly right away but there just seems to be no treatment that works for me and I've tried it all legal and illegal.You will do the craziest things in that much pain and no sleep. Not only do the treatments never work for me there seems to be a major disconnect between the doctors(who do know the illness) and how I am supposed to cope. On the one hand they tell me 'you know that is considered one of the most painful illnesses on the planet' yet I don't know they almost expect me to be fine. I mean I won't even go to a doctor or hospital anymore until I am forced or wake up there and then they will just say the strangest things. Like I will be in a cycle of 10 headaches per day and haven't slept in a month and they look at me and say 'well you have to sleep! You can't not sleep!" You know as if I don't know that or I'm doing it on purpose. The other problem I have is that I know other people who have this illness yet they seem fine to me..well they are. like I had an ex who's mother got diagnosed with the same thing yet she would just pop an aspirin and sit and watch TV while in this alleged brutal pain and sleep all night. so with these different degrees of this illness the doctors just don't get it and you can imagine how crazy I get inside after a few months of that and all the other damage and health problems I have now From a rational point of view I really don't know why I go on with life or why I didn't end it decades ago as I'm not afraid of death..but I guess as humans we aren't rational, I dunno man. My life has been hell on the surface in every way and I obviously know that and certainly feel that through pain..yet I still find something kind of beautiful about it all. I can get so much out of the tiniest things nobody would even notice in life. When I'm crying.pleading and smashing my face off the floor all I want is the mercy of death yet as messed up as this sounds there are times I wouldn't want it any other way. as if there is some strange reason for all of this.. something about it all makes me curious, quite curious about it all. I rarely get depressed despite it all because of this curiosity. I really have no ego, nothing really upsets or angers me even with all the pain and months with no real sleep and that too I find very odd. life's just odd I guess and I'm really no more than a passive observer at this point. I look at life, I look at people here or online and always wonder what's the drama all about? why the anger, the upset, the arguing, the ego..all of it. I'm too broken to have those walls..I don't want to fight with anyone, I know how weak I am. It's given me an insane amount of compassion and so keenly aware of the fact we don't ever know what another is going through so I just can't be mean to anyone. And there is something about that compassion that I really love. but yeah I like most people small things..it can just be a song and it's profound I feel like I got more out of you sending me the song The Git Go than most would out of winning a few million dollars because things can just come at the right time and there are no small things in my reality. www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlcjHDDG8dE
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Post by jahgentle on Mar 26, 2018 18:09:54 GMT -5
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Post by jahgentle on Mar 26, 2018 18:22:33 GMT -5
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Post by jahgentle on Mar 26, 2018 18:23:53 GMT -5
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Post by Fumbduckery on Mar 26, 2018 20:22:07 GMT -5
Good grief man, after reading your last post I feel like I just finished watching Eraserhead.
If you're going through all that, I am really sorry to hear that. You seem like a really good guy, I hate to hear all that. Damn.
I went through a period for a few years where I had a lot of bad headache issues, and it's simply disabling. And nowhere near as bad as what you're describing. I wish to hell they could help you.
I was in a really bad car wreck in 1981, an old man ran a stoplight and hit me right in the drivers door going 65 and never slowed down. I was really torn up, if you saw the car you wouldn't believe anybody could have survived that wreck. The funny thing is later in the hospital they gave me Demerol for pain, and it turned out I was allergic to it, and I damn near died from it. They barely saved me at the last minute. It took a year out of my life coming back from that. But it taught me just easily and quickly your life can be taken from you, and it taught me to appreciate everything I could every day. I've had two more incredibly near death things happen to me in just the last 3 years aside from the implant that have just reinforced that. That's why I like singers who aren't phony and put everything they have into each song. Sing it every time like it's the last time you'll get to, because it may well be.
I have a friend who was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer and given 5 months to live. She's one month past that and still doing really well all things considered, but we've had several talks along the way (every day over the last four days) about the appreciation of little things every day. They are there if you look. But people are so programmed to be so busy or not looking for the good they fail to see them. I don't. I agree, I can hear a line in a song, or see a guy sing it a certain way,and it means so much to me, it really moves me and that sticks with me and makes me feel really good.
I'm amazed that you find a way, somehow, to still be able to do all that. I hope that continues and eventually somebody can find some way to help you. One of the Sean Garrison songs I posted the other day has a line in it "all our drama falls away,to mingle with the dust." And I have found that of all the drama I've ever seen in my life, it all tends to do that. No matter how much is made of it at some point, as time goes by somehow it tends to lose importance.....and just mingle with the dust. I'll get affected by some drama for a moment here or there, but it's gone for good pretty quickly if I do. It's such a useless waste of time and energy.
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