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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 21:48:17 GMT -5
I do not see where a trade deadline subject has been started so guess I will start one
We all know what we are looking for - Innings eating starting pitching like plenty of teams are
And we want to see them do their best for now - hey we are in quite good shape at 16-12 given all the adversity that has gone on with injuries and the SP not being able to eat sufficient innings
Then again, looking at the future got to have a balance of both this yr and past it
As I see it, the two prospects I want no part of trading is Pache and Waters cause I think they will need them for 2021 and beyond, real future OF with those two and Acuna
Not to mention that we have seen the decline of Ender and we can assume that Ozuna is a one yr player for what we need in this process. Nothing against Ozuna, but with the all around game, just do not see him as worth a multi yr deal due to defensive deficiencies
So, we need these kids to build on, I might deem Anderson and Mueller as pieces to get SP help now assuming its a good deal for now and at least a yr from now. But we need these kid outfilders, rookie salaries and talent instead of going for a more expensive FA, might need to spend on an SP in off season
Just trying to provoke your thoughts.
Oh, and for Nick well, hey he will not be an expensive option for one more yr, I know about his WAR, not the best arm, etc but he can play a sufficient role as an OF and assuming there will be a universal DH, can do that too and will not cost much. Future coach in MLB, he should have a future in the game once he is done. Not a regular OF anymore though.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Aug 24, 2020 23:00:02 GMT -5
No way in heck I'd trade Anderson or Mueller right now.
I see us trading Ender and a 5th round pick for Julio Teheran.
There's just no way we should compromise the future at all to "go for it" this year.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 6:16:31 GMT -5
No way in heck I'd trade Anderson or Mueller right now.
I see us trading Ender and a 5th round pick for Julio Teheran.
There's just no way we should compromise the future at all to "go for it" this year.
With our record of young pitchers, Anderson and Mueller might be at peak value right now, just saying. Then again, who knows, maybe they might buck the recent trend. We have been burned by this generation of young pitching prospects we know the list of them I would hate to see them come up here and we find out they can't throw strikes we have been down that road Just never know - but if I can move Ender for Teheran I would make that deal twice and a third time did not know you can trade draft picks like you do in football
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Aug 25, 2020 6:41:07 GMT -5
We went for it trading for Martin, Melocon, Greene, etc.
No more of that if it involves Anderson or Ferris Bueller.
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Post by keystone61 on Aug 25, 2020 7:04:48 GMT -5
We went for it trading for Martin, Melocon, Greene, etc. No more of that if it involves Anderson or Ferris Bueller. Might we trade Touki, Wright, or Wilson? I say we trade Kranitz and several minor league pitching coaches instead.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Aug 25, 2020 9:46:20 GMT -5
No way in heck I'd trade Anderson or Mueller right now.
I see us trading Ender and a 5th round pick for Julio Teheran.
There's just no way we should compromise the future at all to "go for it" this year.
With our record of young pitchers, Anderson and Mueller might be at peak value right now, just saying. Then again, who knows, maybe they might buck the recent trend. We have been burned by this generation of young pitching prospects we know the list of them I would hate to see them come up here and we find out they can't throw strikes we have been down that road Just never know - but if I can move Ender for Teheran I would make that deal twice and a third time did not know you can trade draft picks like you do in football We can’t afford to trade for or sign good SP, we have to hope we have a few good cost controlled pitchers with those two, and they are pretty highly regarded. I know we’ve heard that before, but to me we have to take our chances with them.
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Post by keystone61 on Aug 25, 2020 10:25:42 GMT -5
We have a good team, but I think we're so far behind the top teams when it comes to starting pitching, that we just hold what we've got for this church league season, unless something really appealing pops up.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Aug 25, 2020 11:10:47 GMT -5
The way we hit in the playoffs I wouldn’t be “going for it” with anything stupid this year.
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Post by TomlinFoolery on Aug 25, 2020 11:29:24 GMT -5
The way we hit in the playoffs I wouldn’t be “going for it” with anything stupid this year. definitely not. Take the first round elimination as usual and hopefully have more pieces to legitimately compete next year. I understand yes the Braves have won the division 2 years in a row, but as the nats proved last year, merely winning the division doesn't necessarily mean anything much. The value of division titles ro me have lost a lot of luster given the Braves propensity to flop in the first round after winning the division. Put it this way, the MARLINS have a more recent world series title as a result of making a run with their wild card, Nats also made the most of their wild card last year. For the division titles the Braves have had since 2001, not once have they advanced with it. And wirh the state of the current pitching staff, it would be another 1st round bounce. There really isn't much available to shore up the rotation for a playoff run, so i agree there is no sense in "going all in" this year--not all the pieces are there to justify it, and none are available for trade.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 14:49:29 GMT -5
I would not go for it for the sake of going for it just for a rental, but if its a starter with a couple of yrs of control I would keep an open mind
For sure would not move Anderson for the sake of moving him, hey we will get a look at him and maybe he will be better than what Wright, Touki and others have been, guess the org feels he should be looked at now
And yes, do not give up too much of the future for one year. But I see Waters and Pache as the top two untouchable prospects even before the pitchers - not saying I would just give them up for a short term rental. And maybe Anderson etc will be better than what we have seen we sure have been disappointed in young pitchers in recent yrs
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 14:52:25 GMT -5
And I will be satisfied with this yr with just making the playoffs even if its a first round elimination given all that has gone on
I see no reason why they cannot afford a mid range SP for next yr - an innings eater type you can get on a two yr deal. Not alot of real good ones in this FA class. I see teams being prudent so do not think we have to spend stupid money.
Of course it all depends how the market falls into place
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Post by PABraveFan on Aug 25, 2020 19:25:56 GMT -5
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Post by keystone61 on Aug 25, 2020 20:15:26 GMT -5
The extra year is appealing.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Aug 25, 2020 20:47:53 GMT -5
So appealing that their asking price will probably be ridiculous.
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Post by PABraveFan on Aug 25, 2020 21:27:43 GMT -5
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