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Post by keystone61 on Jan 10, 2020 21:19:28 GMT -5
JD doesn't, either, the market does. You see, JD has determined his worth to be $110 million for 4 years, and it certainly appears that the market disagrees. There's an old saying about markets that is tried and true.............something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. All true, but JD has a say in it. OP is saying JD should accept what he wants. Actually, he has very little say in his value. A million here or there maybe, but that's about it. Very little considering the amount of money you're talking about. The way it's playing out, he may well have cost himself some money. We'll never know. I'll be very surprised if he gets his $100-$110, though.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 10, 2020 22:16:54 GMT -5
Exactly. Maybe he's right............but it's looking doubtful at this point. He's probably gonna wind up in high 80's/low 90's territory. Poor guy. Honestly, it's not really "poor guy". I think he'll get 4/90ish, which is more than the 3/75 everyone else has been predicting he'll get. If it ends up being 4/75 then I would completely agree with you. Yeah I know I couldn't live on a mere $75M.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 11, 2020 1:34:01 GMT -5
All true, but JD has a say in it. OP is saying JD should accept what he wants. Actually, he has very little say in his value. A million here or there maybe, but that's about it. Very little considering the amount of money you're talking about. The way it's playing out, he may well have cost himself some money. We'll never know. I'll be very surprised if he gets his $100-$110, though. Oh, we’ll know soon enough. It’s a negotiation and he and his agent set the high mark. Teams set the low mark. A good agent gets as close to the high mark as possible, but make no mistake, JD decides what his value is the moment he puts pen to paper. OP says, JD should sign a 2-year deal, something that he’s never wanted, and something that isn’t even realistic. JD and his agent want 4 years and if the rumors are true, he has offers for that many years. He set the mark for 4 years.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 11, 2020 1:35:38 GMT -5
Honestly, it's not really "poor guy". I think he'll get 4/90ish, which is more than the 3/75 everyone else has been predicting he'll get. If it ends up being 4/75 then I would completely agree with you. Yeah I know I couldn't live on a mere $75M. Lol, us plebeians have no concept on this amount of money, but the players do. 4/75 and 3/75 are so completely different in their world, but for us, we’d take 100/75.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 11, 2020 14:46:40 GMT -5
Actually, he has very little say in his value. A million here or there maybe, but that's about it. Very little considering the amount of money you're talking about. The way it's playing out, he may well have cost himself some money. We'll never know. I'll be very surprised if he gets his $100-$110, though. Oh, we’ll know soon enough. It’s a negotiation and he and his agent set the high mark. Teams set the low mark. A good agent gets as close to the high mark as possible, but make no mistake, JD decides what his value is the moment he puts pen to paper. OP says, JD should sign a 2-year deal, something that he’s never wanted, and something that isn’t even realistic. JD and his agent want 4 years and if the rumors are true, he has offers for that many years. He set the mark for 4 years. No, he doesn't. All he does is decide that's the best he's gonna do, but I'm gonna allow you to think you're right............
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 11, 2020 15:38:37 GMT -5
Oh, we’ll know soon enough. It’s a negotiation and he and his agent set the high mark. Teams set the low mark. A good agent gets as close to the high mark as possible, but make no mistake, JD decides what his value is the moment he puts pen to paper. OP says, JD should sign a 2-year deal, something that he’s never wanted, and something that isn’t even realistic. JD and his agent want 4 years and if the rumors are true, he has offers for that many years. He set the mark for 4 years. No, he doesn't. All he does is decide that's the best he's gonna do, but I'm gonna allow you to think you're right............ That would be true if he only got one offer.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 11, 2020 16:05:23 GMT -5
The bottom line is somebody needs to go tell JD to either sh*t or get off the pot, we're tired of arguing about him. Give him an ultimatum, either he signs by the end of this week with SOMEBODY , ANYBODY, or he's getting his ass beat. I would do it myself but I'm too old.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 11, 2020 16:27:36 GMT -5
But what does the machine say??? Oh, that's right, it doesn't matter. Only JD determines JD's market value.............almost forgot.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 11, 2020 16:59:30 GMT -5
But what does the machine say??? Oh, that's right, it doesn't matter. Only JD determines JD's market value.............almost forgot. Give it some time, the Surplus Value Masheen runs on dial up.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 11, 2020 18:39:36 GMT -5
But what does the machine say??? Oh, that's right, it doesn't matter. Only JD determines JD's market value.............almost forgot.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jan 11, 2020 18:59:26 GMT -5
it's already been a long off-season.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 11, 2020 19:04:38 GMT -5
it's already been a long off-season. It's that Donaldson guy's fault. Some of us are developing DDS. Donaldson Derangement Syndrome.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 11, 2020 20:31:19 GMT -5
it's already been a long off-season. In positive news, after the recent arb signings, the Braves are currently sitting with a payroll at roughly $130 million. That’s without Greene’s arb raise and the potentiality of signing JD.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jan 11, 2020 21:00:54 GMT -5
it's already been a long off-season. It's that Donaldson guy's fault. Some of us are developing DDS. Donaldson Derangement Syndrome. I was going to post that exact thing, but I decided to not stoke the fire.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 18:58:48 GMT -5
The bottom line is somebody needs to go tell JD to either sh*t or get off the pot, we're tired of arguing about him. Give him an ultimatum, either he signs by the end of this week with SOMEBODY , ANYBODY, or he's getting his ass beat. I would do it myself but I'm too old. Ditto - I am tired of it, wish he would sign and whatever happens happens
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