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Post by PABraveFan on Oct 24, 2019 8:52:18 GMT -5
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Post by Cheaters2 on Oct 24, 2019 10:44:26 GMT -5
Instead of spending money on 3B why not see in the Reds would trade Eugenio Suarez. The Reds are building a nice pitching staff and have a nice young replacement at 3B. Maybe the braves could offer Folty, Ender and Touki and get him. It would give the Reds a legit CF and deepen there staff.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 24, 2019 12:39:36 GMT -5
Why would the Reds want to give him up? He's cost controlled until 2024
and the next man up is still in AA ball. He's a great player in that hat-box they
play in.
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Post by Cheaters2 on Oct 24, 2019 14:15:47 GMT -5
Well nick senzel is a 3B playing CF.. We could offer Folty, Ender and Riley. That would be super hard to turn down. It would make the Reds better.
Think how good there SP would be
Bauer
Castillo
FOLTY
Gray
Wood.
That would be the best rotation in the central division by far
And if Riley could learn to hit off speed he would be a monster in that ballpark.
And Ender gives them a true CF.
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Post by keystone61 on Oct 24, 2019 14:43:28 GMT -5
I see Ozzie and Donaldson are Gold Glove finalists, which is cool. I have a question, though. How can GAPOZ have a negative SDI with only 4 errors all season? He doesn't make errors, he led the league in putouts, DPs turned, fielding percentage, and games played at his position, and he's 3rd in "range factor". Last year he was 8.5, this year (through 8/18), he was at -1.5 on the SDI index, which is a big part of determining the Platinum Glove winners. There's no way that this SDI is accurate. Makes no sense whatsoever......
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 24, 2019 16:09:54 GMT -5
I see Ozzie and Donaldson are Gold Glove finalists, which is cool. I have a question, though. How can GAPOZ have a negative SDI with only 4 errors all season? He doesn't make errors, he led the league in putouts, DPs turned, fielding percentage, and games played at his position, and he's 3rd in "range factor". Last year he was 8.5, this year (through 8/18), he was at -1.5 on the SDI index, which is a big part of determining the Platinum Glove winners. There's no way that this SDI is accurate. Makes no sense whatsoever...... I've thought for years that two things are a joke--the Gold Glove awards, and defensive stats. So I have no answer for you. I do think more than the numbers of errors should be factored in, because obviously range and difficulty of plays matter, but I don't have much faith in any systems of defensive measurements out there. Markakis by the eye test tells me he's a slow slug with a real poor arm, and last year he was 11th among all major league RFers in defensive ranking, and yet he was awarded a Gold Glove. Pffffttttt. This year he ranked 30th among RFers defensively. So maybe he'll win another Gold Glove, who knows. I just go by the eye test with defense and ignore the numbers and who gets the Gold Gloves. Ozzie deserves one if they were legit, he's an outstanding defensive 2nd baseman.
I thought Donaldson was a little inconsistent with the glove. He made a lot of fantastic plays, and for a good part of the year made the routine ones, but he also had a few stretches were he muffed quite a few pretty routine plays. I don't see any way he deserves a Gold Glove for this year.
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Post by keystone61 on Oct 24, 2019 19:09:19 GMT -5
I see Ozzie and Donaldson are Gold Glove finalists, which is cool. I have a question, though. How can GAPOZ have a negative SDI with only 4 errors all season? He doesn't make errors, he led the league in putouts, DPs turned, fielding percentage, and games played at his position, and he's 3rd in "range factor". Last year he was 8.5, this year (through 8/18), he was at -1.5 on the SDI index, which is a big part of determining the Platinum Glove winners. There's no way that this SDI is accurate. Makes no sense whatsoever...... I've thought for years that two things are a joke--the Gold Glove awards, and defensive stats. So I have no answer for you. I do think more than the numbers of errors should be factored in, because obviously range and difficulty of plays matter, but I don't have much faith in any systems of defensive measurements out there. Markakis by the eye test tells me he's a slow slug with a real poor arm, and last year he was 11th among all major league RFers in defensive ranking, and yet he was awarded a Gold Glove. Pffffttttt. This year he ranked 30th among RFers defensively. So maybe he'll win another Gold Glove, who knows. I just go by the eye test with defense and ignore the numbers and who gets the Gold Gloves. Ozzie deserves one if they were legit, he's an outstanding defensive 2nd baseman.
I thought Donaldson was a little inconsistent with the glove. He made a lot of fantastic plays, and for a good part of the year made the routine ones, but he also had a few stretches were he muffed quite a few pretty routine plays. I don't see any way he deserves a Gold Glove for this year.
Sure it should be based on more than errors (or lack thereof), but that's the thing. GAPOZ was NUMBER 1 in 4 metrics, and number 3 in a 5th, and he's a negative defender? That's friggin absurd. It's like saying a guy who hits .300 with 40 homers and 125 RBIs is a negative offensively. Ridiculous. As much as I hate to say it, the only reason I can think of is that he uses a Wilson glove and it's a Rawlings award. |
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Post by Cheaters2 on Oct 29, 2019 12:27:50 GMT -5
Yoshitomo Tsutsugo Should we be in on him? I think Yes. If we sign him and sign Donaldson. It allows us to Move Riley and Pache for pitching. And there is No way I would trade Fried for Bryant no chance.
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Post by keystone61 on Oct 29, 2019 13:08:30 GMT -5
Braves ain't trading Pache. IMO.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 29, 2019 16:47:16 GMT -5
We’re not trading Pache or Riley, and we shouldn’t.
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Post by Cheaters2 on Oct 29, 2019 17:25:40 GMT -5
We’re not trading Pache or Riley, and we shouldn’t. did you see what they say the braves would trade to get Betts 1 yr.. It was the dumbest trade ever... Braves send Pache waters and Anderson. |
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Post by keystone61 on Oct 29, 2019 18:53:50 GMT -5
We’re not trading Pache or Riley, and we shouldn’t. did you see what they say the braves would trade to get Betts 1 yr.. It was the dumbest trade ever... Braves send Pache waters and Anderson. Cream of the Braves' crop for 1 year of Betts? LMAO |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 29, 2019 19:33:12 GMT -5
did you see what they say the braves would trade to get Betts 1 yr.. It was the dumbest trade ever... Braves send Pache waters and Anderson. Cream of the Braves' crop for 1 year of Betts? LMAO They’ll have to suck the Faillies in on that one. |
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Post by keystone61 on Oct 29, 2019 19:49:53 GMT -5
Cream of the Braves' crop for 1 year of Betts? LMAO They’ll have to suck the Faillies in on that one. I doubt they have the prospects to even get a deal done if they tried. |
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Post by wncbravesfan on Oct 31, 2019 21:03:45 GMT -5
Grant McAuley@grantmcauley
As expected. However, the #Braves could still bring Billy Hamilton back in a reserve role. Kevin Seitzer would get an extended crack at helping the speedy outfielder continue strides he showed at the plate with Atlanta. Good glove, too.
Jon Heyman@JonHeyman
Braves will decline Billy Hamilton’s $7.5M option
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