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Post by jahgentle on Aug 24, 2019 1:57:06 GMT -5
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Aug 25, 2019 10:07:11 GMT -5
That was F*** amazing too, as good if not better than Dr. No Watched about 20 times.
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Post by jahgentle on Aug 25, 2019 20:53:03 GMT -5
That was F*** amazing too, as good if not better than Dr. No Watched about 20 times. I can see that, I have watched Dr.No 3 times now and I hate TV and movies for the most part. I expected the worst too with this series considering it's one of the most popular and longest running of all time. That's normally a bad sign but I loved being in the world of these first two movies at least. Very realistic and wouldn't be surprised if all that happened in real life. Even the knife shoe that Rosa Klebb wore was a standard KGB weapon at one time. And Red Grant was just plain scary....'old man.'
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Post by jahgentle on Aug 25, 2019 20:56:52 GMT -5
The super-secret operation to rescue Adolf, Eva, and Martin Bormann from Berlin was called Operation James Bond by secret service agent Ian Fleming. Hitler's dog Blondi also escaped to Argentina.
Even despicable spies take care of their own. Hitler and Eva Braun were rescued from Berlin by commandos led by Ian Fleming, and Hitler spend the last 17 years of his life at the Argentinean Berghof.
Druid drunk Winston Churchill gave his approval for Operation James Bond.
His liaison with MI6 chief Sir Stewart Menzies was super-secretive Desmond Morton.
Ian Fleming was in charge of the overall operation.
The boots on the ground consisted of a team of commandos led by Ian Fleming and Christopher Creighton. Hitler and Eva were flown to Spain, and then they boarded a U-boat submarine for the trip to Argentina.
Commander Ian Fleming was in charge of rescuing Hitler and Eva Braun from Berlin.
Christopher Creighton was a commando who assisted Fleming.
The rescue operation was called Operation James Bond.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Aug 25, 2019 21:57:27 GMT -5
You've been reading too much fiction.
The only one they got was Boorman. Adolf was a true believer.
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Post by jahgentle on Aug 25, 2019 22:17:59 GMT -5
I wouldn't argue it as fact but there isn't anything in this world I would argue as fact. Fact, fiction, is there really a way to tell or does everything just come down to belief? I find all of history, news and media to be that way and it's all so full of lies, slant and deceit I really don't believe anything. I just watch it all as a movie.
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Post by jahgentle on Aug 25, 2019 22:28:48 GMT -5
and the media now is telling me all you who voted for Trump are Nazi's, bigots,racists, dangerous, white supremacists and potential terrorists
how will history record that and who will write it?
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Post by jahgentle on Aug 26, 2019 0:12:38 GMT -5
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Post by jahgentle on Aug 26, 2019 0:13:42 GMT -5
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Aug 26, 2019 8:44:41 GMT -5
I wouldn't argue it as fact but there isn't anything in this world I would argue as fact. Fact, fiction, is there really a way to tell or does everything just come down to belief? I find all of history, news and media to be that way and it's all so full of lies, slant and deceit I really don't believe anything. I just watch it all as a movie. Sometimes it's hard to know what to believe, but there is a truth out there. Often that truth may be bits and pieces of truth amongst many lies that must be pulled out and spliced together. There is little certainty. However; an objective mind willing to take in vast amounts of information, but discard that which is false based on a preponderance of information that can not be proven false, can probably come closest to determining reality.
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Post by jahgentle on Aug 26, 2019 19:37:11 GMT -5
I see what you are saying and that's how are minds tend to work but following that process it would still just be my opinion, my narrative and a belief not a fact. So it would be hard to take it seriously. The media I view the same as I would a pathological liar in real life. Sure they could be telling the truth the odd time even by accident but I will never believe them. I can enjoy it as a fiction like history.
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Post by jahgentle on Aug 27, 2019 0:07:15 GMT -5
Goldfinger was a real head full man and really pulls the rug out from under you. I was expecting it to continue to get bigger in scope than From Russia With Love but it really wasn't the case. It was flashier. The car, the weapons, the gadgets and there seemed to be more women this time. That first shot of Jill was really something...what an absolute beauty and then the shock of the painted corpse. Bond loses her then her sister in an equally brutal way I didn't see coming. He really couldn't seem to protect the women in this one. His whole character was subtly different too...there is a real vulnerability to Bond I didn't see in the first two films and he seemed almost little boyish at times and quite underestimating the enemy.
There was the sexual innuendo but it really went much deeper than that. Your eyes are on the action and the car but the mind keeps getting pulled back to this Oedipus concept. Was Goldfinger supposed to represent his father? It had a really awkward feeling that was the case here esp in their scenes together. And vagist Galore....wow, what a character.
vagist Galore: My name is vagist Galore. James Bond: I must be dreaming.
Yes, exactly the feeling the viewer has at this part. This is a really different female character than we see in the last two films. She's tough, confident, so confident in her role she always seems relaxed, cold, at ease and she seems to treat him as if he were a child too. I love how happy he is to see her in every scene after that even though it's not to his advantage like after he escapes the cell, the way he smiles and say's her name. It feels as though he loves her. Is she a motherly figure to him too and does this play into the Oedipus subtext? The screenplay is damn clever in that it never tells you anything explicitly. Perhaps she reminds James of himself and there is very obvious sexual trauma in her. I would take the lesbian angle in this case as to her having been sexually abused by a man or men in her life, possibly childhood and all desire she has for males are repressed. That really play's out in the barn scene and would explain her change and helping him defeat Goldfinger. She finally met a man she felt she could trust, she took a chance. just so much to think about in this one between flying killer hats, cars with oil slicks and machine guns, homing devices, lasers, very impressive work and I noticed a different director on board
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Post by jahgentle on Aug 27, 2019 0:10:14 GMT -5
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Post by jahgentle on Aug 27, 2019 0:12:20 GMT -5
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Post by jahgentle on Aug 27, 2019 0:25:53 GMT -5
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