Cheaters2
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Post by Cheaters2 on Aug 11, 2019 8:46:38 GMT -5
AA is the Fred Sanford of GMs he only buys other people's junk. And then he over pays for it. And his drafts have been horrible. And now after last night this team will start pressing. The offense feels they have to score 20 runs a game to win. The starters feel why even try I can throw 7 scoreless and be up by 6 and still not win. Last night was a dagger in the heart of this team. The only chance we have now to even make the playoffs is to undo every pitching decision AA has made. Tomlin, swarzek, Greene, Martin. And melecon they all need released. And we need to trust in what coppy did or even wren to right the ship. Bring up Burrows, Wright, Wilson, Davidson, and whoever else can throw strikes. Let them learn at Major league level. AA needs someone to take over talent evaluation for him. The man has made 1 good move his entire career and that was Donaldson and he did it twice.
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Post by keystone61 on Aug 11, 2019 9:01:43 GMT -5
Is that you, pit of misery?
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Aug 11, 2019 10:08:52 GMT -5
Wow
Terrible tread is…… Terrible
I was going to make a tread today fairly and accurately blasting the current incompetence of our bullpen.
After reading this... I think I'll just shelve it Because I don't want my current negative feelings being associated with this level of garbage.
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Post by keystone61 on Aug 11, 2019 10:18:25 GMT -5
The pen definitely sucks right now. I guess we're looking at progression to the mean instead of regression to the mean with these jokers......at least I hope we are. I mean, we know they're not really this bad.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Aug 11, 2019 11:18:16 GMT -5
It does... their performance has been horrible.. laughable.. unacceptable and lots of other things ending in "ble"..
...but had I just posted the stats of these guys when we traded them and asked what would you give up this season to add these 3 guys, I guarantee you cheaters and others would have probably been willing to pay an even higher price for them than we actually did.
No one could have seen this.
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Post by Cheaters2 on Aug 11, 2019 12:39:47 GMT -5
It does... their performance has been horrible.. laughable.. unacceptable and lots of other things ending in "ble".. ...but had I just posted the stats of these guys when we traded them and asked what would you give up this season to add these 3 guys, I guarantee you cheaters and others would have probably been willing to pay an even higher price for them than we actually did. No one could have seen this. when we traded for these guys Martin was the only one I hoped would help. Everything I read about Greene was he was trending down and had given up the long ball more and more and that was in a pitchers park. So I doubted him and Melecon has been a bust for 2yrs. Dudes FB tops out 91 and his curve stays waist high or higher. And honestly other than Donaldson name one solid move AA has made. Ever. Do you think he made 1 draft pick since he has been here who will play for the big league club
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 13:41:43 GMT -5
Is that you, pit of misery? No sir, that is not me At the time the moves made sense, nearly everyone was giddy about adding all 3 relievers including me Other then Wentz, most of what was given up was blocked by someone or guys who fell behind top prospects At the time, the Greene deal was that you have to give up something to get something This might by like the Mc Louth deal ten yrs ago, deal was done for the right reasons, did not give up the farm but it did not work out mostly due to Mc Louth's injuries (Okay we gave up Charlie Morton but he took a decade to wait for) To date these deals I would ascribe to bad luck, AA is a good baseball man who has managed the system well Time will tell on the drafts,
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Aug 11, 2019 14:50:49 GMT -5
It does... their performance has been horrible.. laughable.. unacceptable and lots of other things ending in "ble".. ...but had I just posted the stats of these guys when we traded them and asked what would you give up this season to add these 3 guys, I guarantee you cheaters and others would have probably been willing to pay an even higher price for them than we actually did. No one could have seen this. when we traded for these guys Martin was the only one I hoped would help. Everything I read about Greene was he was trending down and had given up the long ball more and more and that was in a pitchers park. So I doubted him and Melecon has been a bust for 2yrs. Dudes FB tops out 91 and his curve stays waist high or higher. And honestly other than Donaldson name one solid move AA has made. Ever. Do you think he made 1 draft pick since he has been here who will play for the big league club Funny... you didn't voice any of those doubts until now. As far as naming things AA has done.. Let's see.. in 2014, he was at the helm of a .500 Jays team when he orchestrated trades for Troy Tulowitzki, David Price, and Ben Revere and then watched the team when 40+ of the final 60 and win the AL east.. Then I think in 2015 he was named AL executive of the year.. The it does seem JD has been a decent move, but because of 1 week you proclaim him an inept career failure. Ooookay
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Post by Cheaters2 on Aug 11, 2019 15:29:54 GMT -5
when we traded for these guys Martin was the only one I hoped would help. Everything I read about Greene was he was trending down and had given up the long ball more and more and that was in a pitchers park. So I doubted him and Melecon has been a bust for 2yrs. Dudes FB tops out 91 and his curve stays waist high or higher. And honestly other than Donaldson name one solid move AA has made. Ever. Do you think he made 1 draft pick since he has been here who will play for the big league club Funny... you didn't voice any of those doubts until now. As far as naming things AA has done.. Let's see.. in 2014, he was at the helm of a .500 Jays team when he orchestrated trades for Troy Tulowitzki, David Price, and Ben Revere and then watched the team when 40+ of the final 60 and win the AL east.. Then I think in 2015 he was named AL executive of the year.. The it does seem JD has been a decent move, but because of 1 week you proclaim him an inept career failure. Ooookay I didn't say anything because I gave him the benefit of the doubt... As for the trades you mentioned Tulo trade was horrible 122 mil for a guy who couldn't play more than a handful of games. He gave up a current starter for a rental in Price. He also traded away Halladay, Noah Syndergaard, Kendall Graveman, Anthony DeSclafani, Jeff Hoffman and Joe Musgrove. He drafted Kris Bryant and couldn't sign him drafted Carter Stewart and couldn't sign. I do not think he has drafted 1 guy who will ever play for Atlanta as a starter
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Aug 11, 2019 15:55:43 GMT -5
Okay
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Post by jahgentle on Aug 11, 2019 16:01:07 GMT -5
What's really odd about this post is I woke up with the Sanford theme song in my head this morning for no reason. I was humming it on the way to the bathroom. I haven't seen that show in 30 years and haven't had cable in 20 some years so it's not like I heard it in the background or something. Spooky.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Aug 11, 2019 16:06:16 GMT -5
It happens.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Aug 11, 2019 17:14:14 GMT -5
Oh and just a reminder... May 22nd: It might be time for AA to call the tigers about Shane Green
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Post by mauibravefan on Aug 11, 2019 17:27:33 GMT -5
AA signing extensions with Albies and Acuna ---very impressive
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Post by keystone61 on Aug 11, 2019 21:29:12 GMT -5
It's easy to overreact. I've done it my fair share, even though I try my best to avoid doing it. Hell, I overreacted to Folty's first inning today (although I have never trusted the guy). Fact is, he battled and took a step forward today. I think Greene was most likely overvalued, but all we gave up for Melancon was money, and for Martin an underachieving minor league pitcher with a pretty average ceiling. If one of those three guys is in the middle of a dogpile right around Halloween this year or next, I'll consider the trades a pretty damn big win myself.
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