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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 29, 2019 11:18:48 GMT -5
Here is a idea Braves send Riley, Wright and Allard Pirates send Vazquez and unload Archer to braves Who knows maybe Archer can get it together and Pitt needs to get rid of him Here’s a guarantee, Braves make that deal and before the season’s up you’ll be wanting the Braves to release Archer. So, really you just wanna trade for Vasquez, which is cool and could be done for much less in prospects. I would also like to point out that while Vasquez is good, he's not the only reliever who's good, and a lot of those other relievers could be had for cheaper. Giles, Yates, and Garrett could be had for considerably cheaper than Vasquez; and that's only guys who strike out a lot of batters, which is a plus, but not absolutely necessary with relievers.
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Post by bourjosgeorge on Jul 29, 2019 12:13:42 GMT -5
Riley?,,,,,NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO ,,, so Riley is in a slump for 3 or 4 weeks,,,, so what? He absolutely will come out of it and be great. Trading off Riley is STUPID. Riley needs to be untouchable any where this side of stupid.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 29, 2019 12:19:55 GMT -5
Riley?,,,,,NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO ,,, so Riley is in a slump for 3 or 4 weeks,,,, so what? He absolutely will come out of it and be great. Trading off Riley is STUPID. Riley needs to be untouchable any where this side of stupid. I'd trade Riley, in a package, if it was for an elite MLB player; someone like deGrom, for example, but other than that, no chance I trade him or Wright.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 29, 2019 12:20:14 GMT -5
That's actually worth considering, but who's our 3rd baseman of the future? Camargo? He did pretty damn good over there. Josh Donaldson. We can’t extend Freddie, extend Dansby at some point, pay an ace starter everybody wants and Donaldson too. He’s had a good enough year his next deal is going to be pretty outrageous.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 29, 2019 12:22:05 GMT -5
We can’t extend Freddie, extend Dansby at some point, pay an ace starter everybody wants and Donaldson too. He’s had a good enough year his next deal is going to be pretty outrageous. They can afford him for 3 years. It's not like he's gonna cost that much money. Plus, I fully expect the payroll to increase each year. It may not be by a lot, but it'll increase. Plus, Teheran, Keuchel, O'Day, and Swarzak will all be FAs; that's $40+ million.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 12:59:57 GMT -5
I want no part of Archer, none at all
Bauer, maybe
I would rather gamble on the probability of our prospects being good than touch Archer he is a loser
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 13:01:16 GMT -5
"Kyle Wright, Austin Riley, Touki and Tristan Beck to Toronto for Marcus Stroman and Ken Giles"
In my opinion that would be super stupid on our part.
Even I do not like that one but it ain't happening anyway let the Muts keep Stroman
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 29, 2019 13:09:05 GMT -5
We can’t extend Freddie, extend Dansby at some point, pay an ace starter everybody wants and Donaldson too. He’s had a good enough year his next deal is going to be pretty outrageous. They can afford him for 3 years. It's not like he's gonna cost that much money. Plus, I fully expect the payroll to increase each year. It may not be by a lot, but it'll increase. Plus, Teheran, Keuchel, O'Day, and Swarzak will all be FAs; that's $40+ million. I would imagine it will be hard to sign him for less than 4-5 years, this is going to be his last contract....he's played well enough to probably get a 4-5 year offer. Whatever it is it's likely to be $20M+ per year, isn't it?
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Post by keystone61 on Jul 29, 2019 13:19:37 GMT -5
Riley?,,,,,NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO ,,, so Riley is in a slump for 3 or 4 weeks,,,, so what? He absolutely will come out of it and be great. Trading off Riley is STUPID. Riley needs to be untouchable any where this side of stupid. I like Riley, but I've seen enough of him to know that he's not a can't miss player, too. Acuna was a can't miss player, as evidenced by his consistently high production. There's a BIG difference between the two.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 29, 2019 13:39:23 GMT -5
They can afford him for 3 years. It's not like he's gonna cost that much money. Plus, I fully expect the payroll to increase each year. It may not be by a lot, but it'll increase. Plus, Teheran, Keuchel, O'Day, and Swarzak will all be FAs; that's $40+ million. I would imagine it will be hard to sign him for less than 4-5 years, this is going to be his last contract....he's played well enough to probably get a 4-5 year offer. Whatever it is it's likely to be $20M+ per year, isn't it? He'll be 34 when the season starts. Personally, I don't see a team offering him a 4 or 5 year deal. Ya, I'd assume it'd be around what he's making now, so they can afford it, cause they can afford it now. The only issue is, do the Braves want that money to go somewhere else. Personally, I think they'll let him walk and roll the dice with Riley, but we're just speculating on trades and what not, so I'll go down the rabbit hole of trading Riley.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 29, 2019 13:40:20 GMT -5
Riley?,,,,,NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO ,,, so Riley is in a slump for 3 or 4 weeks,,,, so what? He absolutely will come out of it and be great. Trading off Riley is STUPID. Riley needs to be untouchable any where this side of stupid. I like Riley, but I've seen enough of him to know that he's not a can't miss player, too. Acuna was a can't miss player, as evidenced by his consistently high production. There's a BIG difference between the two. If you're only going to keep can't miss players, then you're building a team the wrong way. The only way I'd trade Riley is for a can't miss player. If that's not possible then I'd prefer to keep him.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 29, 2019 13:47:38 GMT -5
I would imagine it will be hard to sign him for less than 4-5 years, this is going to be his last contract....he's played well enough to probably get a 4-5 year offer. Whatever it is it's likely to be $20M+ per year, isn't it? He'll be 34 when the season starts. Personally, I don't see a team offering him a 4 or 5 year deal. I can see it because he's stayed healthy and been productive. Since June 11th anyway with the production. Teams have been reluctant to give out the 8-10 year deals over the last couple years, but given that Donaldson has stayed in good shape and is still capable of going 100%, I could see somebody going 4-5 years on him. Obviously the yearly pay would probably have to be lower over the last two years, but I could see him being a good player for 5 more years. I wouldn't give him that contract myself, I could just see some desperate GM doing it. I would imagine he'll push for it if he's smart, and if he finishes this season strong he's going to have some leverage. He's not losing bat speed or any other skills at this point to scare teams away.
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jul 29, 2019 13:55:10 GMT -5
I like Riley, but I've seen enough of him to know that he's not a can't miss player, too. Acuna was a can't miss player, as evidenced by his consistently high production. There's a BIG difference between the two. If you're only going to keep can't miss players, then you're building a team the wrong way. The only way I'd trade Riley is for a can't miss player. If that's not possible then I'd prefer to keep him. I think Riley will end up a good player and would be fine keeping him. but I would rather have The Donaldson we have now than riley the next 3 yrs and we can replace Riley over the next 3 yrs power hitting 3B is not hard to find. I think the only players who should be off the table is Pache ,Waters and Anderson ..everyone else is free game and with there only being 1 deadline this yr you gotta give up top 10 prospects to help your club today. I'd even trade Swanson if it could get me a Stud starter who is under control.
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jul 29, 2019 13:59:15 GMT -5
He'll be 34 when the season starts. Personally, I don't see a team offering him a 4 or 5 year deal. I can see it because he's stayed healthy and been productive. Since June 11th anyway with the production. Teams have been reluctant to give out the 8-10 year deals over the last couple years, but given that Donaldson has stayed in good shape and is still capable of going 100%, I could see somebody going 4-5 years on him. Obviously the yearly pay would probably have to be lower over the last two years, but I could see him being a good player for 5 more years. I wouldn't give him that contract myself, I could just see some desperate GM doing it. I would imagine he'll push for it if he's smart, and if he finishes this season strong he's going to have some leverage. He's not losing bat speed or any other skills at this point to scare teams away. I can see the Mets or Philles giving him 3 yrs at 75-80 with a 4th yr option. and really don't want them having him. that has to be taken into consideration. both of those teams need 3B help and have shown they will pay stupid money.
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jul 29, 2019 14:13:01 GMT -5
this trade deadline is super important. my question is if AA does not land a difference-maker an Impact player. like we must have instead he lands 2 BP pieces in Joe Biagini and Mychal Givens. will the fan base turn on him
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