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Post by jryanw on Jul 26, 2019 14:49:27 GMT -5
and Camargo at peak value? Just saying. Lol
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 26, 2019 16:34:04 GMT -5
Ender yes, Camargo no. There's never been a reason to trade Camargo. The manager having something against him is not a legit reason to trade him.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jul 26, 2019 16:40:30 GMT -5
Ender yes, Camargo no. There's never been a reason to trade Camargo. The manager having something against him is not a legit reason to trade him. If Snit really had something against Camargo, wouldn’t Charlie have started these last two games? |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 26, 2019 16:42:12 GMT -5
Ender yes, Camargo no. There's never been a reason to trade Camargo. The manager having something against him is not a legit reason to trade him. If Snit really had something against Camargo, wouldn’t Charlie have started these last two games? If Snitker didn't have something against Camargo, wouldn't Johan have started 3-4 times per week all season like Snitker himself said he would in spring training?
Charlie is going to be saved as a pinch hitter because that's his role defined by Snitker. Snitker has said last year and this year he thinks Charlie performs better in this role. Even though he had about an .850 OPS in the middle of the season as a starter due to injuries last year.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 26, 2019 17:27:12 GMT -5
Charlie has performed better in the PH role this year.
I am not sure if Snit really had something against Camargo or if he is just
a "here's my lineup so I don't have to think very much guy"
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Post by littlebeast1 on Jul 26, 2019 17:40:31 GMT -5
Charlie has performed better in the PH role this year. I am not sure if Snit really had something against Camargo or if he is just a "here's my lineup so I don't have to think very much guy" For a while it was more of a “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” situation. Braves regulars were all hitting, Johan couldn’t crack the lineup. Hate it for him but it was what it was. As a professional, you still go about preparing and being ready for your chance. |
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 26, 2019 17:48:03 GMT -5
that's very true about being ready when your time comes, but I don't completely by that if it ain't broke don't fix it.
individual players did go through slumps.... older players have proven that they wear out over the summer and hit a wall... players playing every single day increases the risk of injury because their bodies never get a break.
so yeah I get that that might have been his mentality, but that does not mean it was right. maybe it was… But if Donaldson and Markakis and Swanson break down as the season goes on then maybe it wasn't
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Post by jryanw on Jul 26, 2019 17:56:02 GMT -5
Ender yes, Camargo no. There's never been a reason to trade Camargo. The manager having something against him is not a legit reason to trade him. The point is it's too late to trade either. They can both gain value back but it's unlikely that they'll reach peak value again. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 20:53:08 GMT -5
Ender yes, Camargo no. There's never been a reason to trade Camargo. The manager having something against him is not a legit reason to trade him. The point is it's too late to trade either. They can both gain value back but it's unlikely that they'll reach peak value again. I think Camargo can regain it if he gets a legit chance to play I have been more on moving some of these young pitchers who have failed and who knows if its too late to move them now, what value does Touki and Wright have now? Hoard these young arms and they do not get it done, now maybe they might get better for now cannot trust them |
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Post by keystone61 on Jul 27, 2019 9:54:02 GMT -5
The point is it's too late to trade either. They can both gain value back but it's unlikely that they'll reach peak value again. I think Camargo can regain it if he gets a legit chance to play I have been more on moving some of these young pitchers who have failed and who knows if its too late to move them now, what value does Touki and Wright have now? Hoard these young arms and they do not get it done, now maybe they might get better for now cannot trust them I think you'd be quite surprised at the value Wright has. Touki is another story. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 12:49:27 GMT -5
I think Camargo can regain it if he gets a legit chance to play I have been more on moving some of these young pitchers who have failed and who knows if its too late to move them now, what value does Touki and Wright have now? Hoard these young arms and they do not get it done, now maybe they might get better for now cannot trust them I think you'd be quite surprised at the value Wright has. Touki is another story. I would be interested in how other teams GM's view Wright - Braves fans and those around the local area have been indoctrinated to how we have this great surplus of arms How long do you wait for results Wright might have some value but he is such a walk machine - maybe he might get better There are some who think Touki is a prize arm in waiting but we have seen plenty of walks and poor outings this yr and we can only go by what we see right now - this Braves team is ready to step up now, this is not a rebuild anymore thank goodness We need guys who can help now. It does look like Gausman is getting straightened out finally, he might help down the stretch. Two plus good months is better than nothing I hope he can do what he did last yr down the stretch |
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Post by jryanw on Jul 27, 2019 16:15:52 GMT -5
The point is it's too late to trade either. They can both gain value back but it's unlikely that they'll reach peak value again. I think Camargo can regain it if he gets a legit chance to play I have been more on moving some of these young pitchers who have failed and who knows if its too late to move them now, what value does Touki and Wright have now? Hoard these young arms and they do not get it done, now maybe they might get better for now cannot trust them Most elite pitching doesn't breakout until age 24-26. Our guys still have plenty of value. |
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Post by keystone61 on Jul 28, 2019 10:41:42 GMT -5
I think Camargo can regain it if he gets a legit chance to play I have been more on moving some of these young pitchers who have failed and who knows if its too late to move them now, what value does Touki and Wright have now? Hoard these young arms and they do not get it done, now maybe they might get better for now cannot trust them Most elite pitching doesn't breakout until age 24-26. Our guys still have plenty of value. Save your breath. He ditches everybody well before their 25th birthday. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 23:24:15 GMT -5
We need Ender right now he is starting to get going
As for Camargo, I like Johan but he has not had a good yr this time around
Still think he has a future but his OBP and OPS is not up to par, very disappointing season he is down to the .220's now he cannot get it together this yr and he has had time to get it going
Don't think he will get it done this yr he cannot put a hot streak together and he has had the opportunity as of late with Dansby hurt
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Post by PABraveFan on Aug 4, 2019 8:29:03 GMT -5
Camargo was injured starting last season but when he did get back he was very good although it took about 2 months to get going. He did show more power early with more regular playing time but the average never really escalated until after two months of mostly regular playing time.
First game April 18
Apr 18-May 18
60 AB, .200, .709, 2 2B, 2 HR, 11 RBI
Apr 18-Jun 18
149 AB, .221, .750 OPS, 8 2B, 6 HR, 25 RBI
Jun 18 through end of regular season
315 AB, .295, .833 OPS, 19 2B, 13 HR, 51 RBI
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