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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 7, 2019 22:52:31 GMT -5
Now let's move Gausmen to closer His two main pitches are getting crushed because he is leaving them up and over the middle of the plate. I'm not convinced in the least that stops if we bring him in to hold a one run lead in the bottom of the ninth. How's about if anything, we see if he can stop that in the 6th or 7th inning instead.
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Post by brady2705 on Jun 8, 2019 8:54:21 GMT -5
Now let's move Gausmen to closer His two main pitches are getting crushed because he is leaving them up and over the middle of the plate. I'm not convinced in the least that stops if we bring him in to hold a one run lead in the bottom of the ninth. How's about if anything, we see if he can stop that in the 6th or 7th inning instead. Definitely. Luke's done a great job as closer, So we shouldn't muck with that. I'd say start breaking Gausman in as a 2IP type guy. Tell him to let it fly -- he showed in last year's NLDS he can still approach 100MPH when he gets amped up and goes all out. So if he starts flying at 97+, his split will play up and his location will be less important. If we break him in as a 2IP guy, we could still keep him around for a 4-5 IP spot start every once-in-a-while.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jun 8, 2019 12:31:06 GMT -5
I don’t think trading for Merrifield and having him on the bench is a good idea. Merrifield plays the outfield too. Think about what that means. Found that out later and didn’t bother to edit. Lol
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 13:31:31 GMT -5
At 15th per Sporttrac, that is a respectable payroll - is the budget allowable for a little more, like a Merrifield contract?
It jumped with Dallas K -- you can say they did try after all
Is O'Day going to pitch at all this yr, any updates? That is 9 mil that is true deadweight. Hope he will be off the books next yr
Not sure what they will do with Gausman who is still under team control, but cannot see them offering 9 mil for next yr
In the end, that is 41 mil off the books assuming that JD is allowed to walk. At least they have gotten something from JD
If I were a Royals fan I would be pissed if they moved Merrifield, reasonable contract and one of the few reasons to buy a Royals ticket
Now, that was a short run that they had. But if the Braves can get him it would be great
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 13:33:45 GMT -5
Luke deserves to keep the closer job per what is on the roster now and what he has shown
He is not perfect but has become dependable this yr hope he keeps it up
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 8, 2019 13:44:39 GMT -5
Merrifield is getting ready to turn 30 and he has a lot of value right now, the perfect recipe for the Royals to move him. If he was younger they'd keep him as part of their rebuild, but given his age he won't be part of that. Using guys like him to get 2-3 good young players is the way to go. And he's perfect for us (and several other teams) because we're on the brink of being legit contenders and will be really good in the next year or two. I don't think it would cost us anything that would hurt our future, his age is going to limit a little bit what he'll bring back in return. But I have no idea what it would take to get him. I don't like the idea of getting rid of Camargo, he's too good of an overall player and versatile. With JD and Nick gone next year, and likely Ender, there's plenty of room for Merrifield and Camargo. If we have a manager who knows how to actually utilize players and get them all plenty of playing time.
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Post by keystone61 on Jun 8, 2019 16:59:29 GMT -5
We don't seem to have such a manager, considering his overuse of Nick and his under use of Camargo this year. The way Snitker is botching that is pathetic, and I've always defended the guy for the most part.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 17:34:43 GMT -5
Merrifield is getting ready to turn 30 and he has a lot of value right now, the perfect recipe for the Royals to move him. If he was younger they'd keep him as part of their rebuild, but given his age he won't be part of that. Using guys like him to get 2-3 good young players is the way to go. And he's perfect for us (and several other teams) because we're on the brink of being legit contenders and will be really good in the next year or two. I don't think it would cost us anything that would hurt our future, his age is going to limit a little bit what he'll bring back in return. But I have no idea what it would take to get him. I don't like the idea of getting rid of Camargo, he's too good of an overall player and versatile. With JD and Nick gone next year, and likely Ender, there's plenty of room for Merrifield and Camargo. If we have a manager who knows how to actually utilize players and get them all plenty of playing time. I am not crazy about moving Camargo, but you do have to give up something to get something One assett is his team friendly contract that is welcome in an organization I don't think that a couple of our mid tiered pitching prospects will do it and of course you are not moving our best arms like Anderson and Wright (he still has the stuff but was brought up too fast). After what Touki and Fried did a couple yrs ago in the minors, I won't blast Wright on his AAA numbers. So to me he should be untouchable for now Yes, giving up Merrifield for quantity is the better though unlikable option for them, we went through it on a number of trades, it took a while but Fried and Riley were worth waiting for. Folty, its been a roller coaster ride and Newk, jury is still out
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 17:37:51 GMT -5
BTW, I do not think that Ender would fit what the Royals want in return
I would not be crazy on moving Waters and Pache though moving one of them might need to be done to get a guy as good as Merrifield
Pache, Allard and Gohara, is that reasonable? Would they want to deal with Gohara's arm problems, might have to up the ante with Bryse Wilson instead of Gohara
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Post by keystone61 on Jun 8, 2019 18:18:18 GMT -5
BTW, I do not think that Ender would fit what the Royals want in return I would not be crazy on moving Waters and Pache though moving one of them might need to be done to get a guy as good as Merrifield Pache, Allard and Gohara, is that reasonable? Would they want to deal with Gohara's arm problems, might have to up the ante with Bryse Wilson instead of Gohara No way do I want to move Pache. Waters before Pache, IMO. Plus, there's the matter of my avatar.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 9, 2019 0:07:08 GMT -5
BTW, I do not think that Ender would fit what the Royals want in return I would not be crazy on moving Waters and Pache though moving one of them might need to be done to get a guy as good as Merrifield Pache, Allard and Gohara, is that reasonable? Would they want to deal with Gohara's arm problems, might have to up the ante with Bryse Wilson instead of Gohara Trading Pache would be a terrible idea, same with Waters Pache is already as good defensively as Ender, and truth be told he's probably as good a hitter as Ender. But he's going to be a way better hitter than Ender, I wouldn't trade him, period. We have this kid Travis Demeritte in AAA that is tearing it up this year, you never hear anything about him but he's having a heck of a season. Surely he has trade value now.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 9, 2019 7:04:19 GMT -5
I'm sure he has some value, but I think he has a lot of strikeouts and this is the first year he's really hit for a solid BA.
I think he could be a piece of a package but certainly not headline it.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 9, 2019 10:25:18 GMT -5
I'm sure he has some value, but I think he has a lot of strikeouts and this is the first year he's really hit for a solid BA. I think he could be a piece of a package but certainly not headline it. I agree, but it would help limit our damage.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jun 9, 2019 11:29:40 GMT -5
I wouldn’t mind seeing what the Braves could get for a package of Ender/Camargo. Gotta target a team that needs help at CF and 3B/SS. Don’t have time to look right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 11:57:11 GMT -5
BTW, I do not think that Ender would fit what the Royals want in return I would not be crazy on moving Waters and Pache though moving one of them might need to be done to get a guy as good as Merrifield Pache, Allard and Gohara, is that reasonable? Would they want to deal with Gohara's arm problems, might have to up the ante with Bryse Wilson instead of Gohara Trading Pache would be a terrible idea, same with Waters Pache is already as good defensively as Ender, and truth be told he's probably as good a hitter as Ender. But he's going to be a way better hitter than Ender, I wouldn't trade him, period. We have this kid Travis Demeritte in AAA that is tearing it up this year, you never hear anything about him but he's having a heck of a season. Surely he has trade value now. Yea, I am not so hot on trading Pache, you sold me on that one As one of the more recent posts pointed out, it would be interesting to see what they could get for an Ender/Camargo package Demeritte, wonder how other GM's see him, for sure they know about him.
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