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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jun 26, 2019 15:54:41 GMT -5
I'll fight it until the bitter end. Just because something is inevitable doesn't mean it's right and that I have to take it without protest. You can protest, but it’s completely out of our hands. There just aren’t enough people to overcome MLBs hard on for high scoring games.
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Post by mauibravefan on Jun 26, 2019 16:01:27 GMT -5
Snitkers Tradition Wagon has lots of seats available, hop on. Change is often a hard thing to accept but if it reduces human error to increase impartiality and improve accuracy it is inevitable. The tech ship has sailed already and probably will not sink imo
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Post by keystone61 on Jun 26, 2019 17:43:09 GMT -5
Snitkers Tradition Wagon has lots of seats available, hop on. Change is often a hard thing to accept but if it reduces human error to increase impartiality and improve accuracy it is inevitable. The tech ship has sailed already and probably will not sink imo So. You really wanna see a game with a computer calling balls and strikes? The DH is one thing, but RoboUmp seems a bit far to me. Why not have RoboPitcher on the mound? That way, we can just have a perfect hitting contest. When guys hit homers, they can just head back to the dugout. I mean, what's the point in wasting time circling the bases? The game should be about efficiency, no?
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Post by mauibravefan on Jun 26, 2019 19:20:47 GMT -5
Not on an efficiency run but the strike zone is a measurable space that is not judged equally by all umps it has always been a huge source of inequality and inaccuracy that is at the heart of every at bat,A pitch is in the zone or not equally for every batter.How does robo pitcher and hitter emerge from that
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 26, 2019 19:59:40 GMT -5
I would like robo ump if it was like the robot from Lost in Space and he could do that stun thingy when players argued balls and strikes..
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Post by keystone61 on Jun 27, 2019 7:23:06 GMT -5
Not on an efficiency run but the strike zone is a measurable space that is not judged equally by all umps it has always been a huge source of inequality and inaccuracy that is at the heart of every at bat,A pitch is in the zone or not equally for every batter.How does robo pitcher and hitter emerge from that A measurable space that is different for each hitter. Of course, as we all know, computers are perfect, so this shouldn't pose a problem. It'll be cool when it loses connectivity and/or has to reboot, too. BTW, will this be a machine made to look like an umpire, or just a box with the home team's logo (plus Apple, Google, or Microsoft logos; lord knows we need more of those) on it? Maybe we won't have anything at all behind the catcher? I'm just curious about the particulars of this strike zone perfection.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 27, 2019 7:26:34 GMT -5
Well that info is pretty easy to find
It's done remotely with the call relayed to the ump via earpiece so he can make the call. The ump would still be watching the pitch as a fail safe, I would suppose.
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Post by keystone61 on Jun 27, 2019 8:33:33 GMT -5
So the human umpire will be the "fail safe" for the computerized perfection. This would also seem to indicate that there will always be a delay between the pitch and the strike call. What if the ump accidentally signals strike when it's a ball or vice versa? I believe that there will be just as many mistakes made as there are now. I mean, we all know that replay review really doesn't work very well, or at least that seems to be the consensus. Besides, we're not talking about life and death here, we're talking about a baseball game.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 27, 2019 11:00:43 GMT -5
The ump would only make the call if there was a communications breakdown of some sort.
The relay of the pitch call is supposed to happen almost instantly, because computers work like that.
Comparisons to current replay are stupid because current replay calls for a human to look at several angles of replays while he makes a judgement call. This is not that.
It would be tested in the minor leagues to see if it was actually viable.
I'm not defending it... I don't know how I feel about and initially I didn't like it myself. I am however trying to point folk in the direction of facts so their arguments against it don't descend into absurdities as to what it would be like.
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Post by keystone61 on Jun 27, 2019 12:42:33 GMT -5
Using words like stupid isn't the most diplomatic way of making any point. Irregardless of that, I have no idea how it would work, but I don't care for the premise. As I said earlier, sports is a human endeavor, and calling strikes and balls via computer just doesn't appeal to me. Besides, nothing ever works as well in practice as it is purported to by those espousing it. It'll be interesting to people like me who say stupid things to see where it goes.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 27, 2019 15:18:23 GMT -5
Comparing how they would use a computer to call balls and strikes to how current replay is handled it is irrelevant as is apples and oranges.
Two completely different things.
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Post by turnerfield on Jun 28, 2019 8:41:31 GMT -5
^^ That's what I think about robo ump
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 28, 2019 12:19:44 GMT -5
Did you watch the game yesterday?
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 28, 2019 13:39:21 GMT -5
Did you watch the game yesterday? Or any of the previous 100,000 MLB games played???
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Post by mauibravefan on Jun 28, 2019 15:08:08 GMT -5
At present the games outcome ,the total of every players effort is often affected ,positively or negatively ,by the judgement calls of one individual ,the home plate umpire. I ‘m sure we all agree that each ump calls it a bit differently.That seems to be a lot of power in the accuracy or lack of ,that an individual displays. To be able to level that aspect of the game and decline because inaccuuracy is traditional and part of the game seems very shortsighted to me
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