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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 15:35:39 GMT -5
As long as we have inter league play why not have the same rules for all teams no matter where the game is played
Every league other then the NL has the DH and we know the players union won't go for abolishing the DH. - its been in there for about 50 yrs so the purity of the game issue is irrelevant on that issue now
Got to say I prefer Nick Markakis (or any competent professional hitter) being my DH over having any pitcher hit, you want to talk strategy the best strategy is putting a competent hitter in there instead of a pitcher who really cannot hit
The stuff about pinch hitting, double switches anyway is overdone, give me my lineup and let the game play out with competent hitters and move the game on - Universal DH - that is my kind of baseball. I want to see real hitters, not pinch hitters
Offense is getting more important than pitching is anyway this day in time.
Front line pitching used to be 75 pct or more of the game, when you have SP's going 5 and 6 innings that is not the case anymore. Everyday players and power is the game now - pitchers are just interchangeable parts that get used up after a few yrs this day in time (with a few exceptions)
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Post by akod on Apr 20, 2019 16:14:22 GMT -5
Weird. We agree on something.
It will likely help employ more 30+ guys who are a liability in the field so the players union would be for it.
It’s not like our pitchers hit that much better by being in the NL. Conversely, the AL has an advantage by carrying another solid hitter that gives them a strong bench option in NL parks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 16:29:06 GMT -5
Correct me if I am wrong but to my knowledge, all of the minor leagues and the Independent Leagues have the DH
If that is the case, all players are developed using the DH as part of their professional training
And the colleges have the DH is that right? I do not watch hardly any college baseball, sure I am missing some good stuff but man, I watch NBA. NHL and NFL with some SEC and ACC CFB. With United too
Can't watch it all
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 16:33:07 GMT -5
Weird. We agree on something. It will likely help employ more 30+ guys who are a liability in the field so the players union would be for it. It’s not like our pitchers hit that much better by being in the NL. Conversely, the AL has an advantage by carrying another solid hitter that gives them a strong bench option in NL parks. Also those 30 guys who will likely be decently paid - better than the once or twice a week PH and pinch runner If there were universal DH, perhaps Evan Gattis could be brought back or at least be employed by a MLB team One dimensional guy but hey, he gives you 25 HRS and 80 RBI - I get the low OBP He should have a job
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Apr 20, 2019 18:21:20 GMT -5
Lets just have 9 guys who bat and 9 different guys who play defense. Why not?
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Post by akod on Apr 20, 2019 20:36:28 GMT -5
Purist! Get with the times old man!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 13:17:08 GMT -5
Bump
After seeing Soroka get hit in the elbow, I am bumping this tread, and management did the right thing in taking him out of the game
Home he will be all right and the kid might be mad now, but its the best for him - I have never seen Soroka mad yet, he really does have the mound presence
Once again, I just do not want pitchers hitting anymore, too much can happen and most of em are not good at it anyway
DH has been around since 1973 so there is nothing purist about the snobby NL forsaking a legit position that is cemented in this game
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Post by bravter on Jun 23, 2019 17:06:25 GMT -5
Bump After seeing Soroka get hit in the elbow, I am bumping this tread, and management did the right thing in taking him out of the game Home he will be all right and the kid might be mad now, but its the best for him - I have never seen Soroka mad yet, he really does have the mound presence Once again, I just do not want pitchers hitting anymore, too much can happen and most of em are not good at it anyway DH has been around since 1973 so there is nothing purist about the snobby NL forsaking a legit position that is cemented in this game I mean you could have bumped this tread when Newcomb got drilled in the back of the head/neck by a batted ball. DH means more of a likely chance a bullet gets drilled at them, instead of some wimpy starting pitcher striking out or bunting. It goes both ways. I think a pitcher being put on the DL by a HBP is far less likely than being hit by a 100+ mph batted ball.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 23, 2019 17:28:15 GMT -5
Yeah.... I don't see how what happened today having any relevance whatsoever in regards to DH rules.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 18:37:12 GMT -5
I do not agree, a pitcher hitting is really needless and in today's case, we could have lost the most important pitcher on the staff due to a HBP in a freaky way
As for what happened to Sean, that is something that cannot be helped, cause the pitcher has to be there on the field to field his position. You cannot protect him from everything
What is the point of having the pitcher who generally really cannot hit get in the batters box anyway, its a foolish risk with really no reward having the pitcher hit
Not a likely chance the pitcher gets HBP, but with the fragility of pitchers why take the chance
DH all the way, make the rules for both major leagues the same
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 23, 2019 19:26:51 GMT -5
Pitchers are no more susceptible to injury from a hit pitch than anyone else.
There is an argument to be made for the DH, but this isn't it.
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Post by keystone61 on Jun 26, 2019 13:56:04 GMT -5
Arguments aside, it's gonna happen. We might as well get used to it.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 26, 2019 14:27:56 GMT -5
Arguments aside, it's gonna happen. We might as well get used to it. Same philosophy for the automated balls and strikes calling?
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 26, 2019 15:23:49 GMT -5
I'll fight it until the bitter end. Just because something is inevitable doesn't mean it's right and that I have to take it without protest.
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Post by keystone61 on Jun 26, 2019 15:36:08 GMT -5
Arguments aside, it's gonna happen. We might as well get used to it. Same philosophy for the automated balls and strikes calling? That won't happen, at least not in our lifetimes. It's just a bad look. Sports is a HUMAN endeavor. We're automated enough as it is.
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