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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 15, 2019 13:28:18 GMT -5
I think it’s a given some of them are going to fail. I believe the thinking is to give them one more year so we have a better idea who to keep and who to trade. We don’t want to keep all the flops and trade the ones who blossom. We do risk losing value on some, but we also have the chance of gaining value on some. Of course some of them are going to fail. The problem is, we don't know who they are yet. I figure any value we lose will be offset by gains in some others. It would be different if we only had 4 of them, but we've got about 10. That increases your odds by itself. BIG difference there. Yes, exactly. And what's the sense in trading any of them for guys you'll only have for one or two years, like Bumgarner or Realmuto? I'll take my chances right now that Riley and Soroka will be more valuable for 6 years apiece than Realmuto would be for two years. There's always a chance we could extend Realmuto, but that's gotten harder as time goes by and guys see how much more they can get in free agency. Even if it's short term contracts. I'm never going to get over the J.D. Drew for Wainwright trade, and that should be considered in any trade decisions.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 15, 2019 17:19:11 GMT -5
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 15, 2019 17:55:45 GMT -5
I think so, and so did a few other people.
Now that they're investigating a whole bunch of other teams all around baseball for the exact same things we did, I want to see them all lose 13 prospects a 3rd round draft pick too.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jan 16, 2019 6:59:51 GMT -5
Well that will never happen...
Remember when hollins kept trying to say it wasn't a league wide problem amd it really was only the Braves who were doing it? Ah... good times.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 16, 2019 10:00:11 GMT -5
Sounds to me like the Braves would have some legal grounds to pursue a remedy if other teams aren't treated the same way they were treated. But admittedly, I have no clue.
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jan 16, 2019 15:11:29 GMT -5
I think so, and so did a few other people.
Now that they're investigating a whole bunch of other teams all around baseball for the exact same things we did, I want to see them all lose 13 prospects a 3rd round draft pick too.
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jan 16, 2019 15:16:37 GMT -5
If Pollock wasn't such a health risk it would be so different but to pay the money and lose a high draft pick. Is just to much to gamble
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 16, 2019 15:39:42 GMT -5
If Pollock wasn't such a health risk it would be so different but to pay the money and lose a high draft pick. Is just to much to gamble Yeah, it sucks for Pollock..........but I wish I had such nice problems!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 14:46:28 GMT -5
Five yrs for Pollock - No way - especially w/the draft pick compensation required
Would rather wait for Pache and or Drew Waters who should not be that far away
They should be able to get Nick back on a one yr deal -- or, maybe a versitile guy like Marwin Gonzalez or Josh Harrison for now
Not that hot about Cargo, Adam Jones and some of what is left out there -- would even take a chance that Duvall could get back to his 2016/17 production
pitching is what we need to upgrade and I am afraid we will go cheap like a Marco Estrada on that one and he is horrific
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 14:49:27 GMT -5
If Pollock wasn't such a health risk it would be so different but to pay the money and lose a high draft pick. Is just to much to gamble A 5 yr deal also gets him to his age 36 season -- Ditto No Way & no team will give him that many yrs We really need the picks and not mess up like we did with Carter Stewart last yr Only the Braves would find a way to blow a first round pick like that - the 9th pick gives us a chance for a do over
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 17, 2019 16:21:26 GMT -5
If Pollock wasn't such a health risk it would be so different but to pay the money and lose a high draft pick. Is just to much to gamble A 5 yr deal also gets him to his age 36 season -- Ditto No Way & no team will give him that many yrs We really need the picks and not mess up like we did with Carter Stewart last yr Only the Braves would find a way to blow a first round pick like that - the 9th pick gives us a chance for a do over I'll bet that's not true.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 18:45:29 GMT -5
A 5 yr deal also gets him to his age 36 season -- Ditto No Way & no team will give him that many yrs We really need the picks and not mess up like we did with Carter Stewart last yr Only the Braves would find a way to blow a first round pick like that - the 9th pick gives us a chance for a do over I'll bet that's not true. Well, 95 pct of the time the team finds a way to sign its first rounder in the top 10 -- but our team is one of them that found a way to get the 8th overall pick unsignable Hope it does not happen with the 9th overall again -- maybe try an every day player for a change instead of a $(@* pitcher you have to develop
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Post by hokiedan on Jan 17, 2019 18:50:10 GMT -5
A 5 yr deal also gets him to his age 36 season -- Ditto No Way & no team will give him that many yrs We really need the picks and not mess up like we did with Carter Stewart last yr Only the Braves would find a way to blow a first round pick like that - the 9th pick gives us a chance for a do over I'll bet that's not true. What was the story on Stewart again...I know I've heard it but I can't remember
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 17, 2019 18:51:18 GMT -5
I'll bet that's not true. Well, 95 pct of the time the team finds a way to sign its first rounder in the top 10 -- but our team is one of them that found a way to get the 8th overall pick unsignable Hope it does not happen with the 9th overall again -- maybe try an every day player for a change instead of a $(@* pitcher you have to develop I'd say though that are many other ways to "blow" a first round pick, that's what I was getting at, and the Braves are hardly alone when it comes to screwing that up. It happens. For a variety of reasons. At least we get the 9th pick out of it this year.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 17, 2019 18:54:01 GMT -5
I'll bet that's not true. What was the story on Stewart again...I know I've heard it but I can't remember Well, cheap ass Liberty Media screwed up, DUH, that's the story, as usual!!!
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