hokiedan
AA prospect
Hokie - Anthropomorphic turkey-like bird
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Post by hokiedan on Jan 7, 2019 18:39:17 GMT -5
Duvall will have to do really well with his bat in spring training to beat out Camargo for the open OF spot. Yeah, I don't think Duvall will be starting in any case. For a team that supposedly emphasizes defense...I can't see relying on Camargo to hold down an outfield spot with his lack of range and inexperience.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 7, 2019 18:55:28 GMT -5
Man, I tell ya, for a team that wanted to improve, we're letting everybody slip by. Wouldn't Herrera have been a good pickup? 2/18 seems reasonable for a young, established late-inning guy. Doesn't it? I would have liked to have had Herrera for that.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 7, 2019 18:58:09 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think Duvall will be starting in any case. For a team that supposedly emphasizes defense...I can't see relying on Camargo to hold down an outfield spot with his lack of range and inexperience. I don't think we can write off Camargo yet in the OF--he's not the fastest guy in the world, but he's athletic and if he can get a good jump and good reads then he can make up for a lack of foot speed. I do feel 100% sure he's going to have more range than Markakis and we survived four years of him grandpaing around the outfield. And Camargo has a cannon for an arm.
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Post by mauibravefan on Jan 7, 2019 19:55:38 GMT -5
For a team that supposedly emphasizes defense...I can't see relying on Camargo to hold down an outfield spot with his lack of range and inexperience. I don't think we can write off Camargo yet in the OF--he's not the fastest guy in the world, but he's athletic and if he can get a good jump and good reads then he can make up for a lack of foot speed. I do feel 100% sure he's going to have more range than Markakis and we survived four years of him grandpaing around the outfield. And Camargo has a cannon for an arm. As they say don’t knock it til you try it Heck we trotted Kemp out there a lot
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 7, 2019 20:25:34 GMT -5
Camargo isn't that fast, but he looks really cool when he runs. 👀
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 7, 2019 20:41:44 GMT -5
Camargo isn't that fast, but he looks really cool when he runs. 👀
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 7, 2019 20:53:51 GMT -5
Man, I tell ya, for a team that wanted to improve, we're letting everybody slip by. Wouldn't Herrera have been a good pickup? 2/18 seems reasonable for a young, established late-inning guy. Doesn't it? Slip by? Just because the Braves didn't sign or trade for a player doesn't mean the Braves let them slip by. That is, unless you're advocating the Braves give a FA whatever they want, or give a team whatever they want for a player, but I don't think you're crazy like that.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 7, 2019 22:14:32 GMT -5
I will say again that the Donaldson signing put a serious crimp in us adding any other FAs this offseason, one of the reasons I wasn't fond of the gamble we're taking with his health.
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Post by keystone61 on Jan 7, 2019 22:39:06 GMT -5
I will say again that the Donaldson signing put a serious crimp in us adding any other FAs this offseason, one of the reasons I wasn't fond of the gamble we're taking with his health. But if it pays off........
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 7, 2019 22:44:12 GMT -5
I will say again that the Donaldson signing put a serious crimp in us adding any other FAs this offseason, one of the reasons I wasn't fond of the gamble we're taking with his health. But if it pays off........ Yeah it will be great if he has a great season, but we have to also acknowledge it either killed or seriously disabled our ability to sign other players right now.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jan 8, 2019 3:52:54 GMT -5
But if it pays off........ Yeah it will be great if he has a great season, but we have to also acknowledge it either killed or seriously disabled our ability to sign other players right now. Braves may not need other players if JD can be what he was. Another year of growth for Folty and Newk. A full year of Soroka, Touki, and possibly Gohara. We don’t know which starters could find themselves in the bullpen. My chief concern is COF. What are they gonna do there? Riley? Duvall? Trade? FA? Who knows.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 8, 2019 6:50:18 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure they’ve said Riley and Camargo would play some OF in spring training, unless I dreamt that. And I’m fine with that. If it doesn’t work out we can make a trade during the season. I’d be fine with it if we don’t add one more player, because it also means we didn’t give away any top prospects. However, I will be hotter than a two dollar pistol if JD has injury issues. I know he’ll perform if he can stay healthy. If not we wasted some valuable coin. I would have rather spread that around in a less gambling way. If it works out great but I’ll be holding my breath.
To be honest, even if we enter the season just like we are now, I’ll be more concerned about how our SS is going to hit than our OF situation defensively.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 8, 2019 7:12:24 GMT -5
And when it comes to my dislike of the JD signing, I’ll remind that Camargo was the third best third baseman defensively in all of baseball last year and had an .800 OPS and a 115 wRC+. He had the 11th highest WAR among all third basemen in all of baseball and was only 0.6 points away from Suarez who was 7th. So I didnt think third base was a need for us. Obviously JD has the potential to blow away what Camargo did last year or what he may do this year. But he also has the potential to not be as useful as Camargo. Like last year.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jan 8, 2019 7:20:21 GMT -5
When I say I’d be fine entering the season as we are, I should also say I’m not happy at all with our catching situation. I would have rather signed Grandal or Ramos and a good bullpen guy like Herrera than risking the money on JD. Because I see catcher as a need and I don’t think we are filling it adequately.
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akod
Low A Farmhand
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Post by akod on Jan 8, 2019 10:10:34 GMT -5
AA made the right move with JD. It’s a one year deal that doesn’t hurt us going forward. Camargo will fill in for his injuries and super sub. His value at that position is vital because just as you suspect Dansby will likely need to be relieved of his duties pretty often. Hoping he can develop but very little faith. One more year to evaluate what we have in our youth while not sacrificing the ability to compete.
Grandal would have cost our second round pick and likely wouldn’t have been that big of a difference maker. Ramos was the guy in this regard. I don’t think you guys are getting it. The article I linked in an earlier post about the farm system regression will be very real come 2021. An extra Jenista, Waters, or Muller will be a very useful asset in a gutted system that will have no Latin American talent for at least 5 years. Probably longer as we will have to develop relationships again in the underworld of baseball human trafficking.
It’s all about having options. The cubs( outside of spending) are out of options meanwhile the Astros have Whitley, Tucker, and Alvarez ready to step up and keep them competitive after Verlander, Cole, among others move on.
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