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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Nov 27, 2018 18:57:44 GMT -5
BMac has worked with some of the best pitchers out there, plus he’s been all in on the analytics side of things, with both the yanks and Astros. What he may lack on the field, he could certainly make up for in the clubhouse and on the practice field. The amount of information he’ll be able to pass on to the pitchers will be invaluable.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Nov 28, 2018 10:03:57 GMT -5
BMac has worked with some of the best pitchers out there, plus he’s been all in on the analytics side of things, with both the yanks and Astros. What he may lack on the field, he could certainly make up for in the clubhouse and on the practice field. The amount of information he’ll be able to pass on to the pitchers will be invaluable. And if his knee is truly healed and he comes anywhere close to resembling the McCann of old, he will be a very dangerous bottom of the order hitter. |
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Post by akod on Nov 28, 2018 10:46:30 GMT -5
I am guessing Contreras working with Bmac and Flowers in the spring is a big part of the plan. The draft will be upon us before you know it with two first round catchers out there. Ideally Contreras shows enough that we don’t necessarily have to gear a pick in that direction.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Nov 28, 2018 13:43:56 GMT -5
BMac has worked with some of the best pitchers out there, plus he’s been all in on the analytics side of things, with both the yanks and Astros. What he may lack on the field, he could certainly make up for in the clubhouse and on the practice field. The amount of information he’ll be able to pass on to the pitchers will be invaluable. And if his knee is truly healed and he comes anywhere close to resembling the McCann of old, he will be a very dangerous bottom of the order hitter. Instead of getting the McCann of old, we will just have an old McCann. I don't really mind signing McCann as a veteran back up... he adds several intangibles. What I don't like is McFlowers as a tandem. Like if Contreras was ready I would love to have seen the veteran in tandem with the kid. I am really just not much of a Flowers fan moving forward so I am not satisfied with signing McCann as his 2nd. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 28, 2018 14:11:59 GMT -5
And if his knee is truly healed and he comes anywhere close to resembling the McCann of old, he will be a very dangerous bottom of the order hitter. Instead of getting the McCann of old, we will just have an old McCann. I don't really mind signing McCann as a veteran back up... he adds several intangibles. What I don't like is McFlowers as a tandem. Like if Contreras was ready I would love to have seen the veteran in tandem with the kid. I am really just not much of a Flowers fan moving forward so I am not satisfied with signing McCann as his 2nd. I agree with every word of that. |
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 28, 2018 14:58:01 GMT -5
For me, the good news here is that the Braves obviously are under the impression that Contreras will be ready in another year, and probably as a September call-up. Flowers and McCann both bring a toughness to the team that we probably need, too, and they have a lot of experience which will help the young staff. I was never keen on giving up the farm to get JTR or handing out a big contract to Grandal to begin with, so overall, I'm good with the catching situation.
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Post by akod on Nov 28, 2018 15:42:51 GMT -5
Can’t say it’s exactly ideal but we have a good story going if Bmac is looking to retire as a brave. I have to agree this shows some faith in either Contreras or the commitment to financial flexibility. I guess in a perfect world Riley and Contreras show they are ready. Giving us two more positions we have hardly any capital tied up in.
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Post by keystone61 on Nov 28, 2018 15:46:00 GMT -5
Can’t say it’s exactly ideal but we have a good story going if Bmac is looking to retire as a brave. I have to agree this shows some faith in either Contreras or the commitment to financial flexibility. I guess in a perfect world Riley and Contreras show they are ready. Giving us two more positions we have hardly any capital tied up in. Agreed. I think it's a risk worth taking. I'm sure we can improve at the deadline if it proves necessary to do so. There just aren't many really good catchers around these days. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Nov 28, 2018 17:33:01 GMT -5
I don't know, Contreras only got to A+ ball this year and did not exactly tear it up there. I don't see us counting on him getting a call up to the big leagues next September and being ready for 2020. I still like the idea of signing Grandal or Ramos, but apparently that's not going to happen. If we could have grabbed either one for 2 years, even 3 for Grandal, i would have preferred to do that. That's a huge upgrade over a Flowers/McCann tandem, and worth the money in my opinion. One of my fears already is that what we're really looking at is McCann signing another deal for one year with us in 2020. He hasn't been the "old" good hitter McCann for the last five seasons now. I don't see it as a total disaster, I just think we could do a lot better.
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Post by akod on Nov 28, 2018 18:19:57 GMT -5
I know it’s an unproven player who may not amount to anything and all that jazz but I don’t want to give up a second round pick.
Freeman
McCann
Schafer
Reyes
Escobar
Simmons
Ahmed
Wood
Muller, Jenista, Waters have value currently as prospects
Not too shabby over 16 years. 50/50 shot we get an MLB player? 100% we get another trade chip?
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Nov 28, 2018 19:12:17 GMT -5
I think Contreras is no given, and probably a Sept 2020 call up.. I just don't see him ready before then. That is why
I was hoping for a bridge that could last at least 2 if not 3 years. My fear is that we realize what a mistake it was going
in with 2 old guys at a spot just about everyone here has said is one where players fall off quickly.. that argument was used
against the idea of spending money or trading prospects for a catcher like Realmuto or Grandal..
So about mid year 2019 when we face up to the fact that McFlow is broken, then we have to deal with it for that season and
we go into 2020 with that glaring need. Had we gotten a 2-3 bridge then we're looking at not depending on Contreras until
2021.. at least.
I hope my concerns don't play out and McFlow doesn't collectively blow out it's sphincter ligaments, because as of now this
seems to be our only option for 2 full seasons.
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