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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 17, 2018 20:26:15 GMT -5
How about Michael Brantley? I think this is a sensible option if we can sign him for maybe three years, he'll be 32 at the start of next year. I don't think he's all that great of a defensive player but a solid hitter.
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Post by keystone61 on Oct 17, 2018 20:47:43 GMT -5
Problem is, he's a lefty. We need a right handed hitter behind Freddie if at all possible, IMO. His OPS against lefties is below.700.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Oct 17, 2018 21:14:10 GMT -5
How about Michael Brantley? I think Brantley would be a slight upgrade over what the Braves got out of Neck this year. I’m certain that what Brantley was this year is peak Brantley. Pollock, on the other hand, IMO, has the ability to be a 5 War player, when healthy. If I was rolling the dice, I’d go for Pollock over Brantley. What I’m curious about is what the Braves are gonna do to improve the bullpen. My curiosity is in this order... 1 bullpen 2 OF 3 rotation 4 catcher 5 3rd base
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 17, 2018 21:32:50 GMT -5
Problem is, he's a lefty. We need a right handed hitter behind Freddie if at all possible, IMO. His OPS against lefties is below.700. I see Brantley as Nick's replacement if we went that way, then hopefully we'll get lucky and Riley will be the right hand bat behind Freeman. That's quite a stretch, but maybe we'll get lucky. Or we'll find a way to acquire a right hand middle of the order bat.
And I agree with Nightman, I'd much rather have Pollock than Brantley. I think Pollock has had some freak injuries and isn't necessarily fragile. When he's healthy he can do it all--hit for average, hit for power, run, steal bases and play great defense.
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Post by mauibravefan on Oct 17, 2018 22:15:31 GMT -5
Problem is, he's a lefty. We need a right handed hitter behind Freddie if at all possible, IMO. His OPS against lefties is below.700. I see Brantley as Nick's replacement if we went that way, then hopefully we'll get lucky and Riley will be the right hand bat behind Freeman. That's quite a stretch, but maybe we'll get lucky. Or we'll find a way to acquire a right hand middle of the order bat.
And I agree with Nightman, I'd much rather have Pollock than Brantley. I think Pollock has had some freak injuries and isn't necessarily fragile. When he's healthy he can do it all--hit for average, hit for power, run, steal bases and play great defense.
Both seem like good thoughts, Pollocks defense is better but Brantleys BB/K ratios and Avg. intriguing, wonder what the cost difference would be
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Post by keystone61 on Oct 18, 2018 6:42:07 GMT -5
I see Brantley as Nick's replacement if we went that way, then hopefully we'll get lucky and Riley will be the right hand bat behind Freeman. That's quite a stretch, but maybe we'll get lucky. Or we'll find a way to acquire a right hand middle of the order bat.
And I agree with Nightman, I'd much rather have Pollock than Brantley. I think Pollock has had some freak injuries and isn't necessarily fragile. When he's healthy he can do it all--hit for average, hit for power, run, steal bases and play great defense.
Both seem like good thoughts, Pollocks defense is better but Brantleys BB/K ratios and Avg. intriguing, wonder what the cost difference would be Brantley probably a bit cheaper, but this ain't the time to count pennies. I say go for Pollock in spite of the injury history (which might actually make him a bit cheaper).
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Post by Drkirby on Oct 18, 2018 14:50:36 GMT -5
Kimbrel has looked shaky at best in October. He’ll fit great back in the Atl organization.
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Post by wncbravesfan on Oct 18, 2018 18:12:21 GMT -5
Kimbrel has looked shaky at best in October. He’ll fit great back in the Atl organization. He sure has looked shaky, alright
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 19, 2018 12:26:45 GMT -5
For those interested in moving Camargo thinking he's peaked, consider this:
In all of baseball this year with RISP:
9th with a .342 BA 8th in wRC+ with RISP at 169 6th in OPS with RISP at 1.031
Considering he's only played two seasons and been stellar in both, I don't think we're seeing outlier seasons from him. It's true he would have a lot of value on the market right now, but he should have a lot of value to us as well.
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Post by mauibravefan on Oct 19, 2018 12:55:47 GMT -5
For those interested in moving Camargo thinking he's peaked, consider this:
In all of baseball this year with RISP:
9th with a .342 BA 8th in wRC+ with RISP at 169 6th in OPS with RISP at 1.031
Considering he's only played two seasons and been stellar in both, I don't think we're seeing outlier seasons from him. It's true he would have a lot of value on the market right now, but he should have a lot of value to us as well.
Let’s see some appreciation for Clutch Cargo!
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 19, 2018 13:50:04 GMT -5
The only reason to move Camargo is if we could get a high percentage or all of his production replaced by someone else, and then add someone else in a different position that could add better production than our alternatives. So it's not really about move him because we can sell high and he's going to drop off as much as it is what we have behind him at 3rd base and what would he bring in another area of need.
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Post by keystone61 on Oct 19, 2018 16:45:30 GMT -5
I still say Camargo would make an excellent right (or left) fielder if Riley is deemed ready out of Spring Training. You're losing a lot of defense at 3rd, though, because I'm betting Riley is well behind him with the glove.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 19, 2018 18:53:24 GMT -5
I still say Camargo would make an excellent right (or left) fielder if Riley is deemed ready out of Spring Training. You're losing a lot of defense at 3rd, though, because I'm betting Riley is well behind him with the glove. It’s my wish that they play him in the outfield in winter ball to see how he does. I thought they should have done that last winter.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Oct 19, 2018 19:47:35 GMT -5
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Post by peteorr on Oct 19, 2018 20:34:39 GMT -5
They would likely be in the conversation. Let's assume all of this is even possible, how long would that team be sustainable for? You would have little strength in the farm system. A current young and cheap team would rise in price as time goes on. So you'd inevitably have to let certain players go once they reach free agency. You'd have a lack of dollars possibly in general. Would you have a major league minimum player to replace that free agent with?
I'm likely not going to favor a trade for Realmuto if the Braves do it. The Braves need to be adding to the farm system and not subtracting from it. Now that the Braves have money to spend the rumor is that they might trade for players to account for that payroll. Free agents such as Brantley might be overpaid. But I don't see how the solution is trading for players when you have to give up players to acquire the desired player and then pay the desired player on top of that. As it stands the Braves were a good, but not great team. They won a weak division. My desire is to keep winning the division, hold steady. I don't think the Braves should be trying to win the World Series right now. The Braves would of course be trying to do just that if they traded for those three players.
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