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Post by jahgentle on Sept 6, 2018 10:16:27 GMT -5
That Ark is going to be found. Mt Ararat is covered in 75 square miles of ice, 100's of feet thick..it's just waiting to be discovered, perfectly preserved and I wouldn't be surprised if it's soon.
at the base of the mountain the area is called "The Land of the Eight" which contains one of the worlds oldest vineyards and the worlds oldest winery. The one Noah planted in Genesis 9:20.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Sept 6, 2018 11:32:58 GMT -5
We could really use a guy like Abraham in our bullpen.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Sept 9, 2018 20:31:07 GMT -5
That Ark is going to be found. Mt Ararat is covered in 75 square miles of ice, 100's of feet thick..it's just waiting to be discovered, perfectly preserved and I wouldn't be surprised if it's soon. at the base of the mountain the area is called "The Land of the Eight" which contains one of the worlds oldest vineyards and the worlds oldest winery. The one Noah planted in Genesis 9:20. Do you give any credibility to past partial sightings and such?
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Post by jahgentle on Sept 11, 2018 5:04:14 GMT -5
I haven't seen anything that convinced me fully one way or another in terms of individual finds but as far as the global flood goes I've seen more than enough evidence. It's all right out there in the open if one has eyes to see and it's like you said before more evidence just seems to show up by the day.
One of the biggest problems with Christianity was the big denominational churches not taking The Bible literally. That is if they even took it seriously in the first place which I have serious doubts. The amillennial folks. It's always such a disappointment to talk to these people on a personal level from the church goers to the Ministers, Pastor's and Priests. Everything with them seems to come down to disbelief or the Ark ect is a metaphor....for something....they don't really even know what exactly...but something. Five minutes into the conversation and you know not to mention The Book of Enoch or The Nephilim ...if you really believe this stuff you know they are reaching inside their pocket and have already punched 9....1.....on their phones so best to just let it go. The best I can tell they believe the entire OT to be a 'metaphor for something' Jesus to be a pretty cool guy for the time and as far as God goes they believe in a sorta something somewhere...maybe.
Meanwhile I am seeing giant's bones being dug up all over the earth. Seashells on every major mountain range in the world.1000's of whales bones all over the Sahara. A minimum of 277 global flood stories world wide from countries and cultures supposedly with no connections to each other. I mean even the Natives here have endless stories about the "fallen ones" from the sky, battles with giants, a global flood, an ark that saved mankind and even stories on how they attempted to build a great tower to the sky not long after the flood. The idea all these different cultures made up the same stories as a fiction is absurd and before the indoctrination on the theory of evolution these archaeological finds were simply reported on daily. The New York Times up until the 40's had endless articles about these giant's bones and artifacts being found then one day it just sort of stopped and the cover up really began. The examples are endless really and the more you look the more you will find.
You always hear about history being whitewashed and that's nothing but a red herring and it goes much, much deeper than that. All of history is being hidden and it's no accident. Harvard and Yale are every bit as guilty of stealing The Natives culture and beliefs as the Catholic Church ever was which really isn't surprising as they are one and the same. All flow of information is controlled by luciferians at the top from academia, to mainstream churches, news media, movies, television, culture...they control it all. They are the Matrix and that pagan Empire that started in Babylon all the way to Rome never ended, it just kept expanding world wide and controls the entire globe now. The modern day scientists are playing the same role as the Roman Catholic Priests once did they just switched costumes and excommunication is still a thing. Heresy, intellectual fascism..just look at all the tenured professors who have been fired and black listed for simply suggesting intelligent design.
On thing the ancient Israelite's recognized all too well was that nothing ever really changes and history is nothing but patterns. The languages and window dressing may change through out time but the symbols never do.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Sept 11, 2018 15:33:39 GMT -5
Oh I totally get the evidence of a flood. The flood exists in cultures all over the world dating back to the ancient Sumerians which is as far back as we go with solid recorded information. Anyone not believing that just about has to be willfully refusing to believe scientific fact.
I meant specifically though the reported finds of actual physical evidence of the ark. Wood has been brought down off of Ararat, and there have been reported sightings during some thaw conditions, etc
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Post by jahgentle on Sept 14, 2018 20:50:59 GMT -5
I'm looking at the images now as well as a giant imprint on the landscape they say may have been where the Ark was...very interesting and still couldn't say one way or another but yeah it kinda mesmerizes. Same with the area in Saudi Arabia that claims to be Mt Sinai, all charred at the top, the altar built at the bottom. Who knows really but just the idea that, wow that could be the place is rather overwhelming. It brings on a bit of the Stendhal syndrome.
I wonder if I should read the Book of Mormon? I don't really know anything about it. I had them show up here in the past but they were all dressed in black suits so I just naturally assumed it was Mossad or CIA and didn't answer the door. But I see they did have some very interesting ideas in their history and doctrine that caught my attention specifically that Adam was God and that it was not a punishment but necessary for Adam to leave the Garden/Paradise. Oh those concepts are extremely interesting and could leave one thinking about that and all it implies for a very long time. I love those ideas and find it too bad they have since abandoned them.
But it does really pose questions like why did they leave the Garden? And how long can one stay in Paradise/Heaven before they simply get bored as bliss is not a state that can be sustained and heaven turns into hell. This seems absolutely logical to me as it opens up a whole new set of questions or new ways of looking at things. The big question being as humans, 'what do we want REALLY?' we think we know, but do we?
I mean I think about this state of heaven/paradise/Eden and the longer I think about it the less it seems ideal esp on a long enough time line. I mean really how much pleasure and bliss can a human take? In that sense it puts you almost in the position of God and again the God was Adam theory these Mormons once held. It highlights how much we need the darkness, the evil, the Satan to keep the adventure going. What good is pleasure without pain? What fun is gain without loss?they don't exist... relativity is something that doesn't exist in Eden/Heaven...there is no striving no adventure.
I mean imagine yourself in that situation as Adam or even more as God. You can have everything you ever wanted. All pain and sorrow gone forever. You can indulge in every pleasure, absolute bliss but not only that seeing that you are God you can have it all in less than a blink of an eye
. Things like time, and desire, craving,fear, and overcoming to reach your goals and pleasures do not exist as you are God. You can have it all....an infinity of bliss and pleasure and all in a mere fraction of a second. So when you think this through you, well the only conclusion you can really come to is...OK then what??
This would be a state of cosmic boredom and I see no way around that but biting into that forbidden apple...having an adventure of up's and downs, high's and lows, God's and demons, happiness and sorrows...all of it...the whole human drama. And is it possible this is what God is indeed doing? That God became Adam. That God became Seth, Enoch,Moses, King David, Elijah, and of course Christ himself as He claimed to be. Perhaps God became everyone or is everyone on the planet earth who now lives and ever has lived and living the entire human drama all at once. Even going so far into the drama that God has lost himself so far into it He believes himself to be a mere human...and a human that is always trying to find His way back to God....his true self..behind the ego, behind the games and who we think we are. I mean one thing we know we are not is our ego..we don't know who we are at all.
it's just a really interesting way to look at it all and really does question the whole idea of what it is we all really want as humans when we think it through to the end result heaven? are we sure of that? and perhaps we aren't just some lost souls trapped on this ball floating in space..but instead maybe it's a choice we all made just for the fun of it...the drama and the purpose of life is no purpose whatsoever interesting too that instead of Satan it's Christ who leads them out of the Garden in many Gnostic texts pass the apple Lucifer I'm ready for an adventure, the most amazing adventure as it will be totally out of control and I'll have no idea what's going to happen...
and that's what I really love about The Bible...you could spend the rest of your life just looking at the Adam and Eve tale alone in an infinite amount of ways and always get something different out of it...a whole new perspective on everything it also puts away that childish question of 'if there is a God then why is there suffering in this world?"
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Sept 16, 2018 20:13:34 GMT -5
Well to some degree, everything was and is necessary. It was necessary for Adam to leave the garden... it was necessary for Judas to betray Jesus... it goes on and on.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Sept 16, 2018 20:36:24 GMT -5
Well to some degree, everything was and is necessary. It was necessary for Adam to leave the garden... it was necessary for Judas to betray Jesus... it goes on and on. I would have to disagree.
I do not think sending Adam Duvall up to hit for us is necessary.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Sept 16, 2018 22:16:46 GMT -5
Yes it was and I already proved it. In a come back victory a few games back, Duvall's earlier use prevented him from being available at the crucial moment where a real pinch hitter won the game for us.
You will see in the end that the acquisition of Duvall was the catalyst that put us over the top...
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Post by Fumbduckery on Sept 16, 2018 23:07:46 GMT -5
Yes it was and I already proved it. In a come back victory a few games back, Duvall's earlier use prevented him from being available at the crucial moment where a real pinch hitter won the game for us. You will see in the end that the acquisition of Duvall was the catalyst that put us over the top... Yeah yeah yeah that's true and all, it just seems like there's a better way to prevent him from being available.
Does anybody here have a cousin named Vinnie by any chance?
I'm just sayin'......
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