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Post by Drkirby on Jun 28, 2018 17:27:10 GMT -5
If you make it to the third hitter even And the bigger problem is knowing Snitker is going to leave him in there for a minimum of three to four innings no matter how hard he's getting hit and no matter how bad his command is.
I realize how bad the options are, but when a guy is throwing batting practice, anything else at least has a chance of being better.
Which is why he should be demoted or sent to the pen. Wake up call
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Post by bravepap on Jun 28, 2018 17:38:15 GMT -5
If the intent is punitive or to embarrass, I guess I understand your point.
If the intent is to improve performance, I'm not sure pitching less or to inferior talent will make him better.
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Post by Drkirby on Jun 28, 2018 18:05:44 GMT -5
The intent is to win big league baseball games at any cost.
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Post by bravepap on Jun 28, 2018 18:10:28 GMT -5
I understand that...I thought perhaps you were going to suggest Cornelius might be of more help than Hernandez to Julio, assuming the idea was not punitive.
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Post by mauibravefan on Jun 29, 2018 15:36:53 GMT -5
I understand that...I thought perhaps you were going to suggest Cornelius might be of more help than Hernandez to Julio, assuming the idea was not punitive. An admirable voice of reason in a bored world of questionable conclusions
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Post by keystone61 on Jun 29, 2018 17:14:58 GMT -5
I understand that...I thought perhaps you were going to suggest Cornelius might be of more help than Hernandez to Julio, assuming the idea was not punitive. An admirable voice of reason in a bored world of questionable conclusions That's a helluva post, Maui. I don't know what the it means, but it reads like a 19th century novel.....impressive.
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Post by jahgentle on Jun 29, 2018 17:29:13 GMT -5
An admirable voice of reason in a bored world of questionable conclusions That's a helluva post, Maui. I don't know what the Frack it means, but it reads like a 19th century novel.....impressive. I pictured it being said by Alec Guinness which made it really cool.
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Post by jryanw on Jun 30, 2018 11:29:35 GMT -5
I would trade Julio for Chip Carey right now and let Chip pitch every 5th day. would you be willing to trade Julio for a player with a bad contract ? for example would you trade Julio to the Rangers for Choo and say 10 mil cash? it would open the door to package Ender and Swanson for a 3B. What benefit do we get from this?
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jul 1, 2018 15:26:48 GMT -5
would you be willing to trade Julio for a player with a bad contract ? for example would you trade Julio to the Rangers for Choo and say 10 mil cash? it would open the door to package Ender and Swanson for a 3B. What benefit do we get from this? we get a really good bat who can play LF is we trade Ender. or a great left-handed bat off the bench. Also, we get Tehran out of the rotation. and get someone in his spot who is consistent. Choo is a better offensive player than is Ender and we remove Swanson who is playing better but we only need 1 shortstop and Camargo is better than Swanson
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Post by keystone61 on Jul 1, 2018 16:50:24 GMT -5
Ender made what was possibly a game saving play today. His hitting has been lacking this year, but he makes winning plays. Careful what you wish for. Everybody can't be a superstar.
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Post by jryanw on Jul 1, 2018 17:52:33 GMT -5
What benefit do we get from this? we get a really good bat who can play LF is we trade Ender. or a great left-handed bat off the bench. Also, we get Tehran out of the rotation. and get someone in his spot who is consistent. Choo is a better offensive player than is Ender and we remove Swanson who is playing better but we only need 1 shortstop and Camargo is better than Swanson 1. Choo is an old, avg hitter. 2. Teheran is a serviceable 4-5 starter who's still young enough to improve. That makes him worth more than Choo. 3. Swanson has been as good as half the SS in the league this year. That's a position that, just like catcher, doesn't hit very well. 4. Ender is an amazing defensive OF. His bat is avg. we could do a lot worse. Choo is BAD in the of. Hence why Tex plays him as a DH often. 5. Who do you propose we could he get ender and Swanson that is better than what for Riley is projected to be? Terrible idea all around.
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jul 2, 2018 15:14:16 GMT -5
we get a really good bat who can play LF is we trade Ender. or a great left-handed bat off the bench. Also, we get Tehran out of the rotation. and get someone in his spot who is consistent. Choo is a better offensive player than is Ender and we remove Swanson who is playing better but we only need 1 shortstop and Camargo is better than Swanson 1. Choo is an old, avg hitter. 2. Teheran is a serviceable 4-5 starter who's still young enough to improve. That makes him worth more than Choo. 3. Swanson has been as good as half the SS in the league this year. That's a position that, just like catcher, doesn't hit very well. 4. Ender is an amazing defensive OF. His bat is avg. we could do a lot worse. Choo is BAD in the of. Hence why Tex plays him as a DH often. 5. Who do you propose we could he get ender and Swanson that is better than what for Riley is projected to be? Terrible idea all around. Shoo....2.4 war. 139 wrc+ ... 132 OPS+ these are not average. and e would be fine to get us through next yr. until an FA OF players like Nick Castellanos or Ozuna can be signed. this yrs OF crop of FA is going to be bad contract central. Harper will be way overpaid to be a part-time player who isn't a top 20 player. Pollock will be way overpaid to be on the DL. and the other guys well they are as risky as CHOO. and we could get a solid 3B who is really good in a Swanson Ender package with a pitching prospect or 2 thrown in. I think we could get Eugenio Suarez...As for Riley, I hope he is a good player but the truth is the Kid swings and misses way to much even in the minors
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 2, 2018 18:15:38 GMT -5
I wouldn't touch Ozuna with a ten foot pole. He has a .746 OPS and 105 wRC+ this year, which is much more in line with the rest of his career. Last year was a great season for him, but it was an anomaly. He's supposed to be a good defensive player, some people said, but he hasn't been this year and he's had throwing arm problems.
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Post by jryanw on Jul 3, 2018 6:39:43 GMT -5
1. Choo is an old, avg hitter. 2. Teheran is a serviceable 4-5 starter who's still young enough to improve. That makes him worth more than Choo. 3. Swanson has been as good as half the SS in the league this year. That's a position that, just like catcher, doesn't hit very well. 4. Ender is an amazing defensive OF. His bat is avg. we could do a lot worse. Choo is BAD in the of. Hence why Tex plays him as a DH often. 5. Who do you propose we could he get ender and Swanson that is better than what for Riley is projected to be? Terrible idea all around. Shoo....2.4 war. 139 wrc+ ... 132 OPS+ these are not average. and e would be fine to get us through next yr. until an FA OF players like Nick Castellanos or Ozuna can be signed. this yrs OF crop of FA is going to be bad contract central. Harper will be way overpaid to be a part-time player who isn't a top 20 player. Pollock will be way overpaid to be on the DL. and the other guys well they are as risky as CHOO. and we could get a solid 3B who is really good in a Swanson Ender package with a pitching prospect or 2 thrown in. I think we could get Eugenio Suarez...As for Riley, I hope he is a good player but the truth is the Kid swings and misses way to much even in the minors Choo is the definition of a bad contract dude. He's 35 and is going to get paid 21 mil per year for the next 2 years and has about 10 mil left for this year. Part time player? Choo has been injured many times the last 3 years. War? His war is inflated due to playing 53 games at DH. He's not capable of playing OF for half a season much less a whole season. We'd be better off resigning Markakis to a 10-12 mil per contract(I am opposed to this as well just saying it's a better option) and keeping our team as is. Though I think Inciarte, Swanson and one of our pitching prospects is an overpay for Suarez the way he's playing they'd probably want Wright to get it done. Why do some of you go so crazy for guys who are currently having a good year? Predicting a baseball players future value is multifaceted.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 13:44:15 GMT -5
Have never given Wes Parsons a thought -- have not even seen his name in the top 30 prospects on the team
Does not mean he cannot make it, but this staff overall is better than expected -- who knew Folty and Newcomb would be as good as they have been
And for him being a 5th SP, I am not that down on Mc Carthy, The ERA is bad but its inflated because of some gad awful starts but he usually gives you a chance to win
And for Teharan there is inconsistency but when he has been good he has had some dominating games
And Anabel Sanchez, that was a find -- AA has gotten some low cost finds that have made a contribution this year all over the place
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