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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 14, 2018 15:47:22 GMT -5
Here’s a prediction, the Braves will trade for Moustakas and Herrera from the royals, and we won’t like what they give up. Terehan, Flaherty, Bourjos and Culberson?
lol....
Teheran and Dustin Peterson?
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jun 14, 2018 16:22:09 GMT -5
Here’s a prediction, the Braves will trade for Moustakas and Herrera from the royals, and we won’t like what they give up. Terehan, Flaherty, Bourjos and Culberson?
lol....
Teheran and Dustin Peterson?
Fried and Camargo
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Post by peteorr on Jun 14, 2018 16:31:27 GMT -5
Here’s a prediction, the Braves will trade for Moustakas and Herrera from the royals, and we won’t like what they give up. There are 8 relevant teams in the NL right now: Braves, Nats, Phillies, Brewers, Cubs, Cardinals, Diamondbacks, and Dodgers. Even making the playoffs isn't a formality at this point. Would two prospects from the top 10-30 in the organization be enough? Would you be comfortable with that? Fried is in the top 10 and I could see him traded along with someone in the 20-30 range. Assuming the Braves would make the playoffs if they complete a trade for those two would it have been worth it? In my opinion I think it would be given our pitching depth. I'm of the opinion though that the Braves could do better than Moustakas and that the Braves don't need a reliever who is quite as good as Herrera. Moustakas had .776 OPS in May. That is of course respectable. But you aren't clamoring to trade for that production. His OPS thus far in June is .491. As I've seen mentioned elsewhere, Eduardo Escobar would be a better option than Moustakas. You could pick and choose a reliever from the Twins or perhaps another team. I realize that you are making a prediction and this is not necessarily the move that you personally would make.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jun 14, 2018 17:47:29 GMT -5
Here’s a prediction, the Braves will trade for Moustakas and Herrera from the royals, and we won’t like what they give up. There are 8 relevant teams in the NL right now: Braves, Nats, Phillies, Brewers, Cubs, Cardinals, Diamondbacks, and Dodgers. Even making the playoffs isn't a formality at this point. Would two prospects from the top 10-30 in the organization be enough? Would you be comfortable with that? Fried is in the top 10 and I could see him traded along with someone in the 20-30 range. Assuming the Braves would make the playoffs if they complete a trade for those two would it have been worth it? In my opinion I think it would be given our pitching depth. I'm of the opinion though that the Braves could do better than Moustakas and that the Braves don't need a reliever who is quite as good as Herrera. Moustakas had .776 OPS in May. That is of course respectable. But you aren't clamoring to trade for that production. His OPS thus far in June is .491. As I've seen mentioned elsewhere, Eduardo Escobar would be a better option than Moustakas. You could pick and choose a reliever from the Twins or perhaps another team. I realize that you are making a prediction and this is not necessarily the move that you personally would make. [ That production is still better than what the Braves corps are putting up at the position. Could the Braves get better? Sure, but I’d rather give less and get a little less than give something that’ll hurt for a short term rental. Moose and Herrera would make the Braves better this year. I’m not saying the Braves have to do the deal, I just believe that they will. I forgot fried was ranked so highly, I do think Moose and Herrera would garner prospects in the 10-30 range, more likely the 15-30 range. I could see that. I don’t know who exactly.
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Post by keystone61 on Jun 15, 2018 7:44:04 GMT -5
I like Camargo, personally. He's always hit about .270 to .280, his power has increased, and he's a helluva defender. There's no telling what his future holds, but it seems like it would be worth finding out. There's 6 weeks of play between now and the deadline, so there's certainly no rush to do anything. His OPS is roughly the same as Moose's at this point, though Moose does have more homers and RBIs. Camargo got off to a slow start, which isn't a big deal, IMO. It happens. I'm for letting things play out and see what happens. I'm not a fan of messing with this team's chemistry right now, and Moose isn't Manny Machado by any stretch of the imagination. I'm all for a big difference maker like Machado, but that isn't gonna happen without giving up the farm. I honestly won't be disappointed if we don't do anything this year. Hell, this team could shock the world as is. It's been a great ride to this point, and I don't really wanna hop off.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 15, 2018 9:57:25 GMT -5
To me defense is 70% of Camargo’s game and if he OPS’s over .720 it’s all bonus. Which he’s doing. He’s a really nice asset to have. I’m not saying he makes a team a World Series contender, but to me history has shown that having a field full of “good” players gives you a better chance of winning than having 2-3 stars and then mediocre or less players filling out the team.
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Post by keystone61 on Jun 15, 2018 11:10:12 GMT -5
I don't understand how you call an OPS of over .720 a bonus. He's been well over that ever since he's been here.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 15, 2018 11:26:15 GMT -5
I think he's just saying with his defense, anything above .720 is great. He did note that Camargo has been above that level as well.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 15, 2018 11:51:38 GMT -5
I think he's just saying with his defense, anything above .720 is great. He did note that Camargo has been above that level as well. Yeah exactly. I'm just saying his defense is so good that if he had a .720 OPS I wouldn't complain. He has got silk hands and a very accurate cannon for an arm. And even though defense doesn't matter, it matterz!
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jun 26, 2018 14:44:33 GMT -5
Pundits keep talking about the Braves being in on Moustakas. Skip that! Braves need to be in on Adrian Beltre. He's good, and he won't cost a lot.
Plus, veteran presents!!!!
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 26, 2018 15:41:11 GMT -5
Mike Moustakas - WAR 1.5 in 76 games Camargo - WAR 1.3 in 56 games
Mike Moustakis - OPS+ = 110 Camargo OPS+ = 116
Mike Moustakis - OBP = .312 Camargo - OBP = .355
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jun 26, 2018 16:25:38 GMT -5
Mike Moustakas - WAR 1.5 in 76 games Camargo - WAR 1.3 in 56 games Mike Moustakis - OPS+ = 110 Camargo OPS+ = 116 Mike Moustakis - OBP = .312 Camargo - OBP = .355 Adrian Beltre - WAR 0.8 in 49 games Adrian Beltre - OPS+ = 117 Adrian Beltre - OBP = .368
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Post by Drkirby on Jun 26, 2018 16:28:42 GMT -5
Mike Moustakas - WAR 1.5 in 76 games Camargo - WAR 1.3 in 56 games Mike Moustakis - OPS+ = 110 Camargo OPS+ = 116 Mike Moustakis - OBP = .312 Camargo - OBP = .355 Adrian Beltre - WAR 0.8 in 49 games Adrian Beltre - OPS+ = 117 Adrian Beltre - OBP = .368 Beltre is one of them baseball player guys
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jun 26, 2018 17:21:58 GMT -5
Adrian Beltre - WAR 0.8 in 49 games Adrian Beltre - OPS+ = 117 Adrian Beltre - OBP = .368 Beltre is one of them baseball player guys There ain't many of them guys around.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 26, 2018 18:28:43 GMT -5
and why has Beltre only played in 49 games?
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