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Post by Cheaters2 on Apr 30, 2018 17:56:35 GMT -5
ok, let's say going into next year Riley has earned the 3rd base job. yet with Camargo showing more pop and a great glove. and with Swanson playing better defense and so far hitting better. Who is the Odd man out? let's say Camargo finishes up. with better numbers than Swanson do we still Give Swanson a starting job Over Camargo? I really don't know what I would do. I mean if they all play well I guess we could package Camargo/Swanson with Ender for a stud young OF then sign an FA OF and we would be really solid. I don't think we would have a huge dropoff with either Swanson or Camargo at short. what do you guys think would be the best solution?
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Apr 30, 2018 18:08:45 GMT -5
Camargo becomes the swing man utility player unless his numbers are way better than the other two.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Apr 30, 2018 18:13:35 GMT -5
I think it's too soon to say what SHOULD be done, but I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that Camargo will be the odd man out.
The only way I see that not happening is if somebody suffers a serious injury or Dansby goes just completely bottoms up for a couple of months.
Camargo could end up just being a utility guy more than "odd man out," but how many utility guys OPS .800+?
If you can do that somebody is going to want you to be a starter for them. He would be a good every day SS or 2B starter for a lot of teams. He plays great defense, has a great arm and has been hitting so far in the big leagues.
So I think if everybody stays healthy and Dansby plays reasonably well, somebody will dangle a carrot that will be too good for us to pass up and we'll move Johan.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on May 1, 2018 0:13:41 GMT -5
You play Riley. There is no debate on this, as current version of Camargo doesn’t warrant a debate.
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Post by keystone61 on May 1, 2018 10:59:46 GMT -5
My eyes hurt.
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Post by Cheaters2 on May 1, 2018 17:08:23 GMT -5
You play Riley. There is no debate on this, as current version of Camargo doesn’t warrant a debate. This statement confuses me because the current version of Camargo is outperforming the current version of Swanson. so if it continues this yr that Camargo outperforms Swanson why does Swanson get the start over Camargo?
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Post by Cheaters2 on May 1, 2018 17:10:55 GMT -5
I think it's too soon to say what SHOULD be done, but I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that Camargo will be the odd man out. The only way I see that not happening is if somebody suffers a serious injury or Dansby goes just completely bottoms up for a couple of months. Camargo could end up just being a utility guy more than "odd man out," but how many utility guys OPS .800+? If you can do that somebody is going to want you to be a starter for them. He would be a good every day SS or 2B starter for a lot of teams. He plays great defense, has a great arm and has been hitting so far in the big leagues. So I think if everybody stays healthy and Dansby plays reasonably well, somebody will dangle a carrot that will be too good for us to pass up and we'll move Johan. You most likely are correct here.
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Post by Cheaters2 on May 1, 2018 17:15:44 GMT -5
Camargo becomes the swing man utility player unless his numbers are way better than the other two. How much better would they need to be? and why does he have to outperform someone by a lot? let us say Swanson ends up with ops .around .690 and Camargo ends up around .800 is that enough?
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Post by peteorr on May 1, 2018 17:38:01 GMT -5
Swanson doesn't have experience around the infield to my knowledge other than second base in college. He might need to be demoted initially before becoming the utility infielder. If a demotion is required, I don't think Swanson becoming the utility infielder is all that likely. If pedigree matters at all, Swanson has the edge there. The Braves have been waiting for a while now on Riley and won't all of a sudden block him. Camargo could be better than expected. The Braves will probably trade him if he's starter material. Camargo should have 3B all year. Who is going to take it away from him? Flaherty or Bautista? By the same token Swanson should have shortstop all season. We will get to see what both Swanson and Camargo are made of and make a decision at a later time.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on May 1, 2018 19:10:44 GMT -5
You play Riley. There is no debate on this, as current version of Camargo doesn’t warrant a debate. This statement confuses me because the current version of Camargo is outperforming the current version of Swanson. so if it continues this yr that Camargo outperforms Swanson why does Swanson get the start over Camargo? Because Swanson is better.
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Post by Fumbduckery on May 1, 2018 22:43:40 GMT -5
This statement confuses me because the current version of Camargo is outperforming the current version of Swanson. so if it continues this yr that Camargo outperforms Swanson why does Swanson get the start over Camargo? Because Swanson is better. I really don’t think he has proven that yet. He’s been way too inconsistent. I want to see Camargo playing every day so we get a better handle on him.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on May 2, 2018 2:58:26 GMT -5
Because Swanson is better. I really don’t think he has proven that yet. He’s been way too inconsistent. I want to see Camargo playing every day so we get a better handle on him. I trust the coaches to decide which player is better.
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Post by Fumbduckery on May 2, 2018 8:04:33 GMT -5
I really don’t think he has proven that yet. He’s been way too inconsistent. I want to see Camargo playing every day so we get a better handle on him. I trust the coaches to decide which player is better. I do too in the long run. I do think Swanson had a good enough start to earn some leeway, and that Camargo has a very small sample size so far this season. I thought you were saying long term Swanson has shown he is better. I think that’s still up in the air. There’s a part of me that thinks Camargo can’t keep this up because he never hit until his last year in the minors. But that’s why I want him to play so we can find out.
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Post by Cheaters2 on May 6, 2018 16:45:22 GMT -5
This statement confuses me because the current version of Camargo is outperforming the current version of Swanson. so if it continues this yr that Camargo outperforms Swanson why does Swanson get the start over Camargo? Because Swanson is better. seeing this made me smile because you obviously are using your eyetest to determine that. since the Numbers show Camargo is the better player.
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Post by jryanw on May 6, 2018 20:26:34 GMT -5
I really don’t think he has proven that yet. He’s been way too inconsistent. I want to see Camargo playing every day so we get a better handle on him. I trust the coaches to decide which player is better. Thank you! It's funny how so many guys on here think that our coaches FO would start Swanson over Camargo and Albies if they were better SSs. Why would anyone do that? It shows who on here has never actually played a sport.
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