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Post by Fumbduckery on Apr 25, 2018 15:46:18 GMT -5
Good news is that Adams cleared waivers and is in AAA. He could still be called back up now. Great, that's a surprise. I can't believe nobody could use him as a bench player.
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Post by Larrys HOF Jersey on Apr 25, 2018 15:47:51 GMT -5
No matter what kind of method a person was using, these moves should have been simple. Advanced stats show even more how much Adams should have been kept and Bourjos, Culberson and Moylan gone. Let's implement a tactic used on the falcons board and use purple as a form to convey sarcasm, I'll start. Advanced Statistics
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Apr 25, 2018 17:15:37 GMT -5
I already tried that during the first few days of the bored, but it didn't catch on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 17:43:24 GMT -5
Well, best of luck to Acuna, I think the Braves did handle it the right way, and now is the time to bring him up.
Expect a learning curve like most prospects
As for Adams clearing waivers and being in AAA, that is a good thing -- he is a nice role player with some speed that accepts the role he has -- you need depth players -- never heard of him till I saw him in Gwinnett last yr.
As for Bourjos, this is a guy that never really reached his potential -- never could hit. He had promise a few yrs ago -- there were some on the old board that liked him and panned for him at one time
I don't mind Culberson as a AAAA organizational depth kind of guy, he is not a bad warm body on the bench in a pinch till you get somebody better
Now, can we be rid of Jose Ramirez once and for all -- he is my most hated player on the team -- no love for Freeman and Viz either
The money that can be spend has to be upgrading the pen -- like last yr this pen has cost us -- I do think we would have had 81 wins with an average pen last yr -- that is not where we want to be but a bad pen this day in time will make even a good team look bad.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 17:46:09 GMT -5
Good news is that Adams cleared waivers and is in AAA. He could still be called back up now. Great, that's a surprise. I can't believe nobody could use him as a bench player. Sometimes you get lucky or, somebody just missed an opportunity Good for us -- now, can we get lucky with some relievers who can throw strikes instead of the balls throwers we have
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Post by Fumbduckery on Apr 25, 2018 18:15:33 GMT -5
Half to two thirds of our current bullcrappen pitchers look like balls thrower guys.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 19:28:29 GMT -5
Half to two thirds of our current bullcrappen pitchers look like balls thrower guys. Are the starters that much better -- I doubt Wisler and Folty ever find game to game consistency They have major league stuff but -- its about more than that and they have had their time how much longer do you wait
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Post by Fumbduckery on Apr 25, 2018 22:16:36 GMT -5
Half to two thirds of our current bullcrappen pitchers look like balls thrower guys. Are the starters that much better -- I doubt Wisler and Folty ever find game to game consistency They have major league stuff but -- its about more than that and they have had their time how much longer do you wait Well, they're 25 and 26 years old. I'm pretty doubtful about Wisler, but he should get this season to prove he belongs or doesn't (as long as he pitches halfway decent along the way). Folty is still feeling his way, he can be frustrating but he still shows a lot of potential. Overall he's not having that bad of a season despite being inconsistent and struggling throwing strikes. He does have a 2.77 ERA for the season.
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Post by Drkirby on Apr 26, 2018 6:26:25 GMT -5
Are the starters that much better -- I doubt Wisler and Folty ever find game to game consistency They have major league stuff but -- its about more than that and they have had their time how much longer do you wait Well, they're 25 and 26 years old. I'm pretty doubtful about Wisler, but he should get this season to prove he belongs or doesn't (as long as he pitches halfway decent along the way). Folty is still feeling his way, he can be frustrating but he still shows a lot of potential. Overall he's not having that bad of a season despite being inconsistent and struggling throwing strikes. He does have a 2.77 ERA for the season. I’m folty’s biggest fan, that said...he can’t get past the 5th inning., so something has to change
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Post by littlebeast1 on Apr 26, 2018 7:21:43 GMT -5
I'd say move Folty to the pen cause he has closer's stuff, but I'm not sure he has a closer's mentality. Let's things get to him too often (although he's getting better in that regard).
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Apr 26, 2018 7:31:53 GMT -5
hardly anybody on the staff can get past the fifth inning so I'm not going to hold that against Folty.
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Post by keystone61 on Apr 26, 2018 10:11:34 GMT -5
hardly anybody on the staff can get past the fifth inning so I'm not going to hold that against Folty. Hardly anybody in MLB goes past the 5th inning anymore, so it's not like Folty doesn't have a lot of company in that regard. IMO, teams need to get away from every pitcher having to throw 1,000 miles per hour to get a spot on the roster. It's ridiculous, it causes injuries, it slows down the game, and it takes away a roster spot from the offense and defense, because you have to carry an extra pitcher (or 2). Guys who can change speeds and keep hitters off balance are the most effective, anyway, but you never seem to see those guys anymore. It seemed to serve Glavine and Maddux pretty well.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Apr 26, 2018 12:04:19 GMT -5
MLB scouts and GM's are obsessed with measurables, and the temptation is too great. Pitchers throw max effort on every pitch in order to impress and coaches demand it as well because they know it's there.
Unfortunate, but that's just the way it is now.
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Post by keystone61 on Apr 26, 2018 12:07:17 GMT -5
MLB scouts and GM's are obsessed with measurables, and the temptation is too great. Pitchers throw max effort on every pitch in order to impress and coaches demand it as well because they know it's there. Unfortunate, but that's just the way it is now. I'm bettin' we're gonna see that pendulum swing back the other way in the near future. Some smart fella is gonna figure out that the point of pitching is to get hitters to make outs.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Apr 26, 2018 16:52:10 GMT -5
hardly anybody on the staff can get past the fifth inning so I'm not going to hold that against Folty. Hardly anybody in MLB goes past the 5th inning anymore, so it's not like Folty doesn't have a lot of company in that regard. IMO, teams need to get away from every pitcher having to throw 1,000 miles per hour to get a spot on the roster. It's ridiculous, it causes injuries, it slows down the game, and it takes away a roster spot from the offense and defense, because you have to carry an extra pitcher (or 2). Guys who can change speeds and keep hitters off balance are the most effective, anyway, but you never seem to see those guys anymore. It seemed to serve Glavine and Maddux pretty well. We had a discussion a week or so ago here about this and I said about the same thing. It’s ridiculous.
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