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Post by Drkirby on Jul 14, 2018 20:35:34 GMT -5
Aww man... I would avoid buying dugout seats for Julio games. I've got tickets to three games in the second-half and I pray none of them are Julio games. He was on the DL when I got them -.-
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Post by Drkirby on Jul 14, 2018 20:36:34 GMT -5
I got to see the 15 inning Machado homer off of Moylan from the dugout seats too.
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Post by Drkirby on Jul 14, 2018 20:38:13 GMT -5
FWIW though Turner field was better. I loved getting to catch BP there.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 14, 2018 21:22:59 GMT -5
Braves are averaging 32,000 a game... Those passionate Philly fans are showing up at about 26,000 We aren't passionate because we don't throw batteries at players.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 14, 2018 21:27:12 GMT -5
Players aren’t perfect and he didn’t force the manager to start him. True story, but he didn’t execute, thus pissing away $400 worth of dugout seats I understand the frustration, and I believe it's fair to boo certain players at certain times...I would have booed Justin Upton if I had the chance.
But any time one purchases tickets to any sporting event, it's with the understanding you're taking the risk of getting a total dud performance. It goes with the territory. You know in advance there's no promise. You have a right to boo and be upset, but I don't think anybody can complain about how much money they spent because they knew in advance the risk.
I get the whole thing, I've spent big money and got dud games in return, and I was pissed, but I didn't cry about the money because I knew in advance it was a chance. To me it's all evened out in the long run, I've seen some great games in person that made up for it.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jul 14, 2018 21:46:33 GMT -5
Ya should have seen the cash I dropped at the Falcons last regular season game in 2014. It was against the equally mediocre Panthers in the dome.. Win and we win the division... lose and we go home. They layed the biggest effin egg I've ever seen in my life, losing 34-3. They visibly quit playing in the first half and Mike Smith was fired as soon as the game ended. The entire organization owed everyone in the place a refund as it came out later on that even with the playoffs on the line, the organization had leaked that they had been in contact with a firm to do a search for Smith's replacement. The sold out dome full of non passionate Atlanta sports fans booed them unmercifully. . I wasn't one of the booers, but I didn't go see a game the next season
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 14, 2018 22:18:54 GMT -5
Ya should have seen the cash I dropped at the Falcons last regular season game in 2014. It was against the equally mediocre Panthers in the dome.. Win and we win the division... lose and we go home. They layed the biggest effin egg I've ever seen in my life, losing 34-3. They visibly quit playing in the first half and Mike Smith was fired as soon as the game ended. The entire organization owed everyone in the place a refund as it came out later on that even with the playoffs on the line, the organization had leaked that they had been in contact with a firm to do a search for Smith's replacement. The sold out dome full of non passionate Atlanta sports fans booed them unmercifully. . I wasn't one of the booers, but I didn't go see a game the next season And you didn't even throw any batteries. Pfffffffttttttt.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 15, 2018 14:41:17 GMT -5
I would only boo a player if that player didn't show effort. Like, if I saw Harper jogging to first, I'd boo. Otherwise, as long as the player is showing effort, I see no reason to boo him.
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Post by Drkirby on Jul 15, 2018 17:38:17 GMT -5
I would only boo a player if that player didn't show effort. Like, if I saw Harper jogging to first, I'd boo. Otherwise, as long as the player is showing effort, I see no reason to boo him. So when ender pulls his lax crap you’d atleast boo that?
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 15, 2018 17:49:26 GMT -5
I would only boo a player if that player didn't show effort. Like, if I saw Harper jogging to first, I'd boo. Otherwise, as long as the player is showing effort, I see no reason to boo him. So when ender pulls his lax crap you’d atleast boo that? Ya, lack of effort is boo worthy. Lack of execution isn’t. Failure is expected, lack of hustle isn’t.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 15, 2018 18:55:28 GMT -5
So when ender pulls his lax crap you’d atleast boo that? Ya, lack of effort is boo worthy. Lack of execution isn’t. Failure is expected, lack of hustle isn’t. I think lack of execution can become boo worthy if a guy makes the same mistakes over and over and over. I begin to see that as a lack of effort to change things.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 15, 2018 19:09:57 GMT -5
Ya, lack of effort is boo worthy. Lack of execution isn’t. Failure is expected, lack of hustle isn’t. I think lack of execution can become boo worthy if a guy makes the same mistakes over and over and over. I begin to see that as a lack of effort to change things. That begs the question, can the player change things? Maybe the player just isn’t good enough. If that’s the case it begs the question why is that player being put in certain situations. That’s not the players fault, that’s the managers fault, or the fault of the FO.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 15, 2018 20:18:10 GMT -5
I think lack of execution can become boo worthy if a guy makes the same mistakes over and over and over. I begin to see that as a lack of effort to change things. That begs the question, can the player change things? Maybe the player just isn’t good enough. If that’s the case it begs the question why is that player being put in certain situations. That’s not the players fault, that’s the managers fault, or the fault of the FO. I agree. And the problem there is it can take some guys longer to learn or adjust, there's no set time on when you should or shouldn't give up on a guy.
But I still support a fan who wants to boo if the issue(s) continue over and over and the fan has paid his money.....I don't believe in whining about spending the money after the fact, but if you spent the money I think you have the perfect right to boo....within reason of course.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 15, 2018 22:46:35 GMT -5
That begs the question, can the player change things? Maybe the player just isn’t good enough. If that’s the case it begs the question why is that player being put in certain situations. That’s not the players fault, that’s the managers fault, or the fault of the FO. I agree. And the problem there is it can take some guys longer to learn or adjust, there's no set time on when you should or shouldn't give up on a guy.
But I still support a fan who wants to boo if the issue(s) continue over and over and the fan has paid his money.....I don't believe in whining about spending the money after the fact, but if you spent the money I think you have the perfect right to boo....within reason of course.
Ya, for me it’s root for the guy until the bitter end, or until effort becomes an issue. I can give you an example where I think we can agree. BJ Upton didn’t succeed and as time went on he didn’t really adjust and then he would just whine all the time. To me, that’s boo worthy. Like, what are you complaining for? Swing the dang bat or start recognizing those sliders low and away earlier you friggin idiot.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 15, 2018 23:12:59 GMT -5
I agree. And the problem there is it can take some guys longer to learn or adjust, there's no set time on when you should or shouldn't give up on a guy.
But I still support a fan who wants to boo if the issue(s) continue over and over and the fan has paid his money.....I don't believe in whining about spending the money after the fact, but if you spent the money I think you have the perfect right to boo....within reason of course.
Ya, for me it’s root for the guy until the bitter end, or until effort becomes an issue. I can give you an example where I think we can agree. BJ Upton didn’t succeed and as time went on he didn’t really adjust and then he would just whine all the time. To me, that’s boo worthy. Like, what are you complaining for? Swing the dang bat or start recognizing those sliders low and away earlier you friggin idiot. I definitely still root for all of our players all the time, even when I'm not happy with how they're doing. I just reach a point where I want to see some signs a guy is trying to adjust if he's struggling.
BJ Upton definitely should have been booed. He didn't perform and he also didn't hustle. I give him credit because he did try to make some adjustments in his stance and swing, it just didn't pay off. For all the kudos Uggla deserved for being a hustler, that jagoff never altered anything about his approach or swing at any point.
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