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Post by bravter on May 24, 2018 22:53:48 GMT -5
I don't think Steve Kerr is all that great of a coach. The team played better when he was out a few years ago, and this year they scored like crazy when he let the team make the coaching calls. Not much evidence, but I have a feeling he holds the team back. Despite the injuries they should be playing more cohesively.
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Post by wncbravesfan on May 27, 2018 21:40:44 GMT -5
Cleveland 76 Boston 72 4:44 left, 4th qtr Series tied 3-3
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Post by wncbravesfan on May 27, 2018 21:53:11 GMT -5
Cleveland 81 Boston 74 1:16 left, 4th qtr Series tied 3-3
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Post by bravter on May 27, 2018 22:04:00 GMT -5
This was a pathetic game to watch. Cleveland is going to get smashed by either Houston or Golden State. I love how everytime LBJ drives to the basket the center is nowhere to be found. A rookie kept Boston in this game. 74 points at home is just pathetic.
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Post by wncbravesfan on May 28, 2018 21:51:58 GMT -5
Steph Curry took the game over in the 3rd qtr...which we’ve seen many times before... And James Harden disappeared...which we’ve also seen before
Golden State 76 Houston 69 Beginning of 4th qtr
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Post by bravter on May 29, 2018 0:08:42 GMT -5
Houston was like 0-14 on 3 pointers in the third quarter. They chocked the nice lead away.
After missing so many shots and Curry making the lucky bounce three pointer at 2:46, total frustration was set on the Rocket team. The frustration of why are our shots going in and out and a shot like that goes in.
Golden State has too many weapons and the Rockets can argue that losing Chris Paul was a big blow to the team. Golden State will beat Cleveland in 5. Cleveland has no chance unless the refs make up these phantom fouls to keep the game close.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on May 29, 2018 15:36:19 GMT -5
Somehow they will manage to pick someone who 5 years from now will be judged of having not been worth a pick anywhere in the top 25.
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Post by bravter on Jun 1, 2018 1:47:32 GMT -5
Jr probably made the number one Shaqtin a fool ever in the NBA. Also all the Lebron fans are whining about the refs, but Jr pushed Durant in the lower back as he was going for the ball in this clip. Not sure but that could have put Durant at the line.
And as always Javale, when they let him play, Mcgee makes Shaqtin a fool again.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 2, 2018 23:14:40 GMT -5
I genuinely despise the NBA...
This is the 3rd year in a row I correctly picked the finals, and I didn't come close to falling for the manufactured drama regarding if it would truly play out.
... and to boot, The Atlanta Hawks are just a very bad organization.
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Post by bravter on Jun 3, 2018 2:58:12 GMT -5
I genuinely despise the NBA... This is the 3rd year in a row I correctly picked the finals, and I didn't come close to falling for the manufactured drama regarding if it would truly play out. ... and to boot, The Atlanta Hawks are just a very bad organization. I'm not going to argue against any of that. I think the more players get good at three's the sport will be done. It's bad enough as is, but the sport is soft as all get out, so getting wide open threes is easy to come by. It's so easy to get to the free throw line from three point land these days too, partly because what Zaza did last year to Kawhi. Steph Curry is making 93 three's out of 100 in practice. You make 33 three pointers in a game and that's 99 pts, where as if you make 50 two's that's 100 pts. That's drastic when teams are shooting 40% or higher at three's, while maybe just 50% at two's and 70% at free throw line. The days of the sky hook are long gone. Here's Kareem talking about it There's flops everywhere, ref's can easily control the score of the game more than any other major sport. I also am starting to question if the players are in on it too. Not saying I believe they are in on it, but that's a reason why I do watch. These narratives the media create always seem to come down to the way they want it. One funny thing I'd noticed in that Houston/GS series, is mid series Houston had a 19 point lead and they continued chucking threes instead making the easier two shots. Why not change your game plan there and put the pressure on GS to make the harder shots that they were able to make earlier in the game. Instead they started missing three's like crazy and I think they lost the game by double digits. Houston had the players that can post up, but no they just played careless, played with no psychology, low basketball IQ. More things I question with basketball is why sometimes they show questionable calls and other times they don't, are these announcer being told what not question. It's like if Lebron is involved it's somehow more important than a role player. Also Lebron is considered one of the slowest players in basketball you really telling me players aren't able to get in position and take a charge. Maybe they don't attempt it because they know refs won't call it and risk getting injured. I also question when they say basketball players are more athletic. I guess you can say they are, but they also get away with so many travels, they do thing's on the court that players just didn't attempt much back in day. These euro steps, pushing the limits of travels, the hop step that throws defense off guard, charging straight into the opponent using their hands and elbows to stop them from blocking the shot. They rarely get an offensive foul for doing that, but a soft touch by the defense and it's to the foul line. So yeah it's hard to see how the sports going to last. If no one's seeing the value in post, are these kids going to even practice these shots anymore. Center's today are practicing three point shots, the more they get good at that, then who's going to even contest it? The slow center would probably be the only one to do so. In basketball you never hear much of any psychology though. I think Kareem Abdul Jabbar made a case for the post and sky hooks, but then you would be trading two's for three's and when a team is down a lot where's the value in that in this day and age. I made a case that you can use them when you're up a lot but I'm doubtful it will evolve to that. Center's today are pretty much like the relief pitcher in baseball more like the middle reflief. Just very little value in them. Golden State only had 4 offensive rebounds vs Cleveland's 19 offensive rebounds and they still won. Of course there's the whole super team bs we now have to deal with. All started by Lebron James and now the super super team in the Warriors thanks to Durant. You can excel your net worth by winning championships with publicity. Charles Barkley couldn't even answer the players on certain teams and he does this for a living. Back in the days of NES and NBA Jam you could at least answer one or two players per team. I still probably can name more players back then, than today. It's a superstar driven game though and yes Hawk's are in a long rebuild it seems. Tanking is the way of basketball and it's waiting for that right for sure superstar and who the NBA will allow to get it. I can see some flaws in some things I've said. Maybe basketball is in that awkward teenage stage and we'll see more psychology in the game. When GS Warriors win this we'll see Lebron leave and create another super team, and that will go on for a few more years. He'll win one or two more championships and then he'll retire. Whatever it maybe he's not greatest and never will be. He's like the John Cena of basketball, hard worker but just got to the Final in a awful east every year, comparable to Cena winning so many when they have two championship belts to compete for. Both also like to bury talent and throw coaches/gms under the bus. As for Atlanta you're probably right but it still feels good when they win, even if it's like fake pro wrestling.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 3, 2018 7:46:35 GMT -5
Well with Atlanta I knew their little run a few years back was fools gold. They made the conference semi's, but they were not going anywhere. They should have done what others do and just tanked for multiple straight years, even if that is one of the reasons the NBA stinks.
Not that it would have mattered anyway because they would've blown the draft picks regardless.
... and the play in the NBA is a joke.. It's a superstar's league, and they get away with murder.
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Post by PABraveFan on Jun 3, 2018 16:02:02 GMT -5
Well with Atlanta I knew their little run a few years back was fools gold. They made the conference semi's, but they were not going anywhere. They should have done what others do and just tanked for multiple straight years, even if that is one of the reasons the NBA stinks. Not that it would have mattered anyway because they would've blown the draft picks regardless. ... and the play in the NBA is a joke.. It's a superstar's league, and they get away with murder. They play under a completely different and inconsistent set of rules these days. Somewhere along the line they started to let player carry the ball and and take three steps without calling a violation and it's got so out of hand now that it's almost impossible for a defensive player to guard an offensive player. In addition, the three point shot has changed the game so much that all most teams do is either spread it out and drive or dish for a three pointer. The mid range jump shot is a lost art. I'd bet there are only 10-15 points/game scored by most teams on mid range shots. Most are 3's or layups. I'd like to see the 3 point line moved back 3 feet and eliminated from the corners (it's barely a college three, if that, at the corners). As far as officiating goes sometimes a guy just barely touches someone and it's a foul and other times players get mauled and no fouls are called. What's with all the reviewing in the last two minutes and changing foul calls. Hate it! I sometimes wonder if this is even the same game I used to play. I hate the "throw up a shot" when a guy fouls you and you make it look like you were shooting. In the act should be only while or just before or after the shot was taken not when the guy is bring his hands up from the waist with the ball. They are great athletes but this is truly a different game. What's with that European waking??? The guy tucks the ball under his arm near the top of the key and takes three long strides before putting up a shot. Absolutely terrible!
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Jun 4, 2018 18:48:23 GMT -5
My dad played basketball and this is what he told me about some of this stuff...
He's 83 now and he says when he played if you caught the ball with a foot off the ground, and that foot then landed... that was step 1. The next step was 2, and if you even picked that leg up again it was traveling.
Now the 1st step is the 1st step that is taken after the foot lands (what in his day was step 2)... then they take the 2nd step, and then elevate after that. So in his mind players now get 4 steps.
He also says watch the pivot foot.. he says now the pivot foot can be lifted off the ground 2 inches and repositioned without it counting as a step.
Then on carrying he claims in his time if your hand went past the equator level of the ball it was ruled carrying and these guys now look like they are flipping pancakes when they dribble.
On top of all that, you have the refs letting stars get away with everything because "the fans don't pay to see Lebron foul out", but then like you said... let some random Hawk bench player touch one of the stars and it will be called. It's all about the Lebrons and Currys... its hardly even a team game anymore... its isolations, one on one breakdowns, and then swinging the ball around to make the 3 as you're right.. the 3 line needs to be moved back 3 feet and kept at a consistent distance through the apex to where it hits the side-line before it hits the end-line!
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Post by bravter on Jun 5, 2018 0:02:14 GMT -5
Jeff Van Gundy was complaining about Lebron traveling last game (while Cleveland were getting blown out) and he pretty much said what I said. That these players keep pushing the limits of the game. I don't watch a lot of college basketball, but when I do it seems like players are getting away with more travels and carrying the ball. The whole flipping the ball like a pancake as hmf said.
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Post by wncbravesfan on Jun 6, 2018 21:10:16 GMT -5
Golden State 48 Cleveland 56 :57.9 left, 2nd qtr
Golden State leads Series, 2-0
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