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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 8, 2018 15:30:10 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks the Braves should have kept Kemp won’t think so a year from now. BTW, the Braves made an offer for Machado. It wasn’t a clear cut winner. Update: Of the 7 teams who sent offers, the Braves’ offer was the 5th best. All I gotta say to that is good. I want no part of a deal that includes Austin Riley plus We all know that Machado would be a two plus month rental and we know they will not pay to keep him so might as well stay the course on that one And the way the pitching has been as of late -- who knows where we will be in the standings on July 31st Getting a bit worried about Newcomb -- 3 straight sub par starts. Its not good what he is doing as of late Still want the Simmons for Newcomb trade now??? I don't know but that is a good debate Newcomb is in a slump and deserves to be called out for it -- he stinks right now I agree that I wouldn't trade Riley for a rental, but I would trade Riley+ for deGrom or Thor.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 15:30:11 GMT -5
I still support the Kemp trade based on what we saw last yr could we really trust the guy would stay in shape a full yr
So he is giving the LAD a full yrs work for a full yrs pay -- he did not do that for the ATL last yr
We will see what the Braves do this off season though -- if they choose not to spend and have another winter like last yr this FO should be called out
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 15:31:03 GMT -5
Get rid of that avitar -- I did not post that
The other one was not too bad
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 15:34:33 GMT -5
Is Machado a winning player? He obviously puts up numbers, but it's a valid question, not just for him, but for any player you add at mid-season. He has not been on the best of teams -- Baltimore has been a struggling franchise since the early 80's for the most part Some good yrs, some underachieving yrs in the 90's but have gone though its worst times till Buck brought some respectability back This yr is fell apart. Could say the same about Mike Trout -- I say they would be winning players with a better supporting cast THis Orioles team -- they tried to win but mucked up all over this yr
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 8, 2018 18:53:14 GMT -5
Is Machado a winning player? He obviously puts up numbers, but it's a valid question, not just for him, but for any player you add at mid-season. He has not been on the best of teams -- Baltimore has been a struggling franchise since the early 80's for the most part Some good yrs, some underachieving yrs in the 90's but have gone though its worst times till Buck brought some respectability back This yr is fell apart. Could say the same about Mike Trout -- I say they would be winning players with a better supporting cast THis Orioles team -- they tried to win but mucked up all over this yr How screwed up does your logic have to be to claim that a single player in a team sport isn't a winning player because the team under-performs.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 8, 2018 20:31:55 GMT -5
how is it short-sighted to say kemp Eright now is better than both Harper and Pollock? And tell me what FA are we going to sign who is better than Kemp? I understand we needed to open a spot for Acuna but CF is His spot. short-sighted is any GM who would waste 20+million a season on Harper or Pollock on long-term deals. Short sighted because you are comparing a future signing that we will have for several seasons to what Kemp is doing this one single year. I think it's pretty clear to everyone how the phrase short-sighted applies here. Yeah but, we should have kept Kemp and then signed him for 3 more years. Y U NO CEE?
Nevermind he can't play defense or run anymore, or that there's an 80% he'll suffer at least one significant injury this season and every season thereafter, or that he's almost certain to regress to his average of being about an average hitter for 4 out of the last 5 seasons prior to this one....
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Post by keystone61 on Jul 10, 2018 11:51:08 GMT -5
That comment right there somes up your short-sightedness. Not to say you are not right about Kemp right this moment, but when the decisions were made they were made trying to look beyond this one single season. No one expected the team to be ready to make a serious run this year, and the GM has to look at long term goals. You though can only see this one aeason and nothing beyond. As a GM, that would be a recipe for total organizational failure. how is it short-sighted to say kemp Eright now is better than both Harper and Pollock? And tell me what FA are we going to sign who is better than Kemp? I understand we needed to open a spot for Acuna but CF is His spot. short-sighted is any GM who would waste 20+million a season on Harper or Pollock on long-term deals. I'm just cruisin' the board, but are you REALLY saying that the Braves should have kept Matt Kemp? Really??
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jul 11, 2018 23:42:20 GMT -5
how is it short-sighted to say kemp Eright now is better than both Harper and Pollock? And tell me what FA are we going to sign who is better than Kemp? I understand we needed to open a spot for Acuna but CF is His spot. short-sighted is any GM who would waste 20+million a season on Harper or Pollock on long-term deals. I'm just cruisin' the board, but are you REALLY saying that the Braves should have kept Matt Kemp? Really?? he is an All Star and is a front-runner for NL MVP and no saying he cant be as good next yr. and none of the FA next yr are for sure going to be better and whoever we sign will defiantly be worse than Kemp. so why should we have traded him ?
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Post by Cheaters2 on Jul 12, 2018 0:03:15 GMT -5
Short sighted because you are comparing a future signing that we will have for several seasons to what Kemp is doing this one single year. I think it's pretty clear to everyone how the phrase short-sighted applies here. Yeah but, we should have kept Kemp and then signed him for 3 more years. Y U NO CEE?
Nevermind he can't play defense or run anymore, or that there's an 80% he'll suffer at least one significant injury this season and every season thereafter, or that he's almost certain to regress to his average of being about an average hitter for 4 out of the last 5 seasons prior to this one....
no one said anything about re-signing him. but he is as good an option for us as any FA next yr.
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Post by TheCoronaManCometh on Jul 12, 2018 0:58:29 GMT -5
I'm just cruisin' the board, but are you REALLY saying that the Braves should have kept Matt Kemp? Really?? he is an All Star and is a front-runner for NL MVP and no saying he cant be as good next yr. and none of the FA next yr are for sure going to be better and whoever we sign will defiantly be worse than Kemp. so why should we have traded him ? If Vegas has a prop bet on whether Kemp was going to have a good year next year, I’d put all my money on against.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 12, 2018 1:19:29 GMT -5
he is an All Star and is a front-runner for NL MVP and no saying he cant be as good next yr. and none of the FA next yr are for sure going to be better and whoever we sign will defiantly be worse than Kemp. so why should we have traded him ? If Vegas has a prop bet on whether Kemp was going to have a good year next year, I’d put all my money on against. If they had a bet on whether or not he will suffer a significant injury this season and miss a lot of playing time, I would bet yes.
If they had one asking whether or not he will have a significant slump and end up with an OPS under .800 I'd bet yes.
If they had one asking if he still looks like a wounded moose running in the outfield, I'd bet yes.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 12, 2018 2:35:40 GMT -5
Matt Kemp is not allowed in the All Star Home Run Derby Jamboree and Hootenanny only because their counters don’t go up to eleventy billion.
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Post by keystone61 on Jul 12, 2018 23:58:38 GMT -5
Zack Wheeler. Might the Braves pick him up if the price is reasonable? The numbers certainly aren't overwhelming, but he's a Georgia boy who is still only 28. Coming home (and good health) might allow him to reach his considerable ceiling.
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Post by PABraveFan on Jul 15, 2018 16:27:32 GMT -5
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Post by Fumbduckery on Jul 15, 2018 17:23:59 GMT -5
No, just no, please god no, don’t give up anything for that guy. I was never impressed with him, and even after a hot start this year he’s been dreadful in June and July, OPS under .650. Just say NO!
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