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Post by wncbravesfan on Oct 22, 2021 19:25:28 GMT -5
David O'Brien @dobrienatl In Max Scherzer's four starts vs. #Braves since the beginning of the 2020 season, including one postseason game, he is 0-1 with a 4.98 ERA and has allowed 21 hits, 12 earned runs and 7 home runs in 21 2/3 innings.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 22, 2021 19:53:14 GMT -5
David O'Brien @dobrienatl In Max Scherzer's four starts vs. #Braves since the beginning of the 2020 season, including one postseason game, he is 0-1 with a 4.98 ERA and has allowed 21 hits, 12 earned runs and 7 home runs in 21 2/3 innings. Not to mention he just had a dead arm 4 days ago. There's no guarantee he's going to be up to speed tomorrow night.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 22, 2021 20:04:35 GMT -5
David O'Brien @dobrienatl In Max Scherzer's four starts vs. #Braves since the beginning of the 2020 season, including one postseason game, he is 0-1 with a 4.98 ERA and has allowed 21 hits, 12 earned runs and 7 home runs in 21 2/3 innings. Not to mention he just had a dead arm 4 days ago. There's no guarantee he's going to be up to speed tomorrow night. There's also no guarantee that wasn't a bit of gamesmanship. There are really no guarantees at all, but I still feel okay. I hope he isn't right because I think we need to score 5 or 6 to win tomorrow.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 22, 2021 21:20:00 GMT -5
Not to mention he just had a dead arm 4 days ago. There's no guarantee he's going to be up to speed tomorrow night. There's also no guarantee that wasn't a bit of gamesmanship.
There are really no guarantees at all, but I still feel okay. I hope he isn't right because I think we need to score 5 or 6 to win tomorrow. I thought of that too, but we have hit him pretty good pretty often over the last few years, everybody has an end to their glory days, I see this as the wake up call that his best days are behind him. Regardless if he did have a dead arm or not. Eff him, just bash his brains in. I do know he didn't look right in that last outing, I can see us smacking him around tomorrow night. I actually feel like it's better that we got pounded last night than lose a tight game by blowing it the end. If we had lost a close game the guys might feel nervous, now that we got embarrassed on national TV last night hopefully it pisses them off and they come out mad and determined tomorrow night rather than scared. The Dodgers are also under a ton of pressure, if they lose people are going to call them chokers as well.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 22, 2021 21:50:35 GMT -5
I just think they are under pressure because they are the Dodgers. Choking doesn't fit after going down 3-1 and they can point to Muncy, Scherzer, Turner, et al.
I think they actually have a certain amount of confidence because it's just assumed they will continue their performance in elimination games, and we are who we are; Choke City, USA.
I hope I am wrong, but I think they will be loose and play well. We're just going to have to be loose as well and perform better.
I do agree about the blowout.. Those are easy to just brush off.
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Post by TomlinFoolery on Oct 22, 2021 21:56:41 GMT -5
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Post by wncbravesfan on Oct 22, 2021 22:03:56 GMT -5
Max Scherzer will not start for Dodgers in NLCS Game 6 against the BravesMax Scherzer was scheduled to speak to the media via Zoom soon after the Dodgers landed at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport on Friday night. News conferences are customary for starting pitchers the day before scheduled playoff outings and Scherzer has been slated to start Game 6 of the National League Championship Series against the Atlanta Braves on Saturday. But Scherzer didn’t address reporters. The team touched down at around 8:15 p.m. EDT and canceled the session minutes later because Scherzer isn’t going to start Saturday after all, according to two people with knowledge of the situation. Scherzer won’t make the start because of arm fatigue concerns, according to three people with knowledge of the situation. Scherzer, 37, hasn’t pitched since Game 2 last Sunday when he threw 79 pitches over just 4 1/3 innings in a Dodgers loss. After the game, Scherzer said his “arm was dead.” Three days earlier, the right-hander threw 13 pitches to close out Game 5 of the National League Division Series against the San Francisco Giants. He has not undergone an MRI, a person with knowledge of the situation said. “I could tell when I was warming up that it was still tired,” Scherzer said. Despite Scherzer’s blunt assessment, the Dodgers maintained he would recover to start Saturday. Dodgers manager Dave Roberts reiterated the plan after the Dodgers’ Game 5 win Thursday, but acknowledged Scherzer’s stamina level was a mystery. “I don’t know until we get there,” Roberts said. “I really don’t. He’s doing his work and preparing. Obviously, he’s been on the stage. ...Whatever he can give us we’re going to have guys around him to help us win a ballgame.” With Scherzer not set to start, the Dodgers, already without Clayton Kershaw for the postseason, the only other feasible option, could have Walker Buehler starting on short rest for the second time in the postseason. Julio Urías, the team’s No. 3 starter, pitched five innings in Game 4 on Wednesday. Buehler held the Giants to one run across 4 1/3 innings in Game 4 of the NLDS on Oct. 12. In Game 3 of the NLCS on Tuesday, he recorded the worst outing of his already sterling postseason career, yielding four runs across 3 2/3 innings on six days’ rest. The other option is another bullpen game with Tony Gonsolin or David Price assuming the bulk of the innings after using seven other relievers to stay alive in Game 5. Gonsolin didn’t pitch Thursday after logging two innings in Game 4 on Wednesday. Price was added to the roster Friday to replace the injured Joe Kelly. The veteran left-hander hasn’t pitched since the Dodgers’ penultimate regular season game Oct. 2. The Dodgers acquired Scherzer, a free agent this winter, from the Washington Nationals at the July 30 trade deadline to bolster the starting rotation with another frontline talent for another World Series pursuit knowing Trevor Bauer wasn’t going to return from paid administrative leave this season. His playoff returns have been mixed so far. Scherzer started two playoff games before recording his first career save in his relief appearance in San Francisco on Oct. 14. In the first postseason outing, he threw 94 pitches in just 4 1/3 innings in the wild-card game against the St. Louis Cardinals. Five days later, he was dominant against the Giants, surrendering one run on three hits with 10 strikeouts across seven innings in the Dodgers’ 1-0 Game 3 loss. Three days after that, Scherzer was used in relief on two days’ rest for the second time in his postseason career. In the first instance, pitching for the Nationals in Game 5 of the 2017 NLDS against the Chicago Cubs, he gave up four runs in one inning in a loss. Two years later, he tossed a scoreless inning for the Nationals against the Dodgers in Game 2 of the 2019 NLDS. He then limited the Dodgers to one run over seven innings in Game 4 three days later. He didn’t bounce back nearly as smoothly in Game 2 against the Braves last Sunday. “I’ve been in this situation before,” Scherzer said. “You don’t want to always go out there and pitch full strength. Usually in those situations, once you get past pitch 45 sometimes, it kind of loosens up and you’re able to get deeper into a game. But after that third inning, it didn’t loosen up. It was still more tightening up. So, I could tell that my pitch count was going to be limited.” His pitch count Saturday will be zero, leaving the Dodgers another obstacle to overcome as they face elimination. www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/story/2021-10-22/max-scherzer-will-not-start-dodgers-braves-game-6-mlb-playoffs
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Post by Fumbduckery on Oct 22, 2021 22:30:26 GMT -5
I just think they are under pressure because they are the Dodgers. Choking doesn't fit after going down 3-1 and they can point to Muncy, Scherzer, Turner, et al. I think they actually have a certain amount of confidence because it's just assumed they will continue their performance in elimination games, and we are who we are; Choke City, USA. I hope I am wrong, but I think they will be loose and play well. We're just going to have to be loose as well and perform better. I do agree about the blowout.. Those are easy to just brush off. Even with those guys out they may still have the best team on paper in the big leagues. People all over have been calling them chokers already because they should have buried us by now, all things considered.
I do think there's a bit of an asterisk hovering around their title last year, so people are making a big deal out of it that the Dodgers have spent so much money and only have one tainted title in 33 years.....so I do think they have a lot of pressure on them. If they do win the next two games I don't know if it will be because they played loose as much as it is the fact their still good and do have more experience at this level than we do.
Now that dead arm numbnuts Scherzer is out tomorrow night that should help us. We need to be the ones that are loose and just score eleventy billion runs and be done with it.
And I'm going to throw this out there, I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but I think the Dodgers pulled some B.S. and I'm going to be really pissed off if they get away with it and it helps them win. I don't think Joe Kelly was hurt last night. I think they pulled that stunt because his pitch count was so high to begin with, then it allowed them to slow our momentum down while their next pitcher came in and got to warm up for a long team. Even though he had been throwing in the pen for 15 minutes already. Now by claiming Kelly is hurt they were able to add Price to the roster. I think they knew Scherzer was not right and I guess they'll use Price tomorrow night. He hasn't been real good, but if he does come out and give them 5 good innings tomorrow night I'm going to be really mad about it all.
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Post by wncbravesfan on Oct 22, 2021 22:41:30 GMT -5
David O'Brien @dobrienatl #Braves vs. #Dodgers NLCS Game 6 start time Saturday moves from 5:08 p.m. to 8:08 p.m. now that the ALCS has concluded.
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Post by wncbravesfan on Oct 22, 2021 22:41:55 GMT -5
Jeff Schultz @jeffschultzatl Looks like Astros on their way to the World Series. One of their hitting coaches is Troy Snitker, Brian Snitker’s son.
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Post by TomlinFoolery on Oct 22, 2021 22:57:00 GMT -5
Scherzer being scratched, is it advantageous or not? Saw how their supposedly exhausted bullpen did yesterday.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 23, 2021 5:35:03 GMT -5
Scherzer being scratched, is it advantageous or not? Saw how their supposedly exhausted bullpen did yesterday. I was fine facing Scherzer and seeing him go through the lineup a couple of times against batters very familiar with him.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Oct 23, 2021 5:39:48 GMT -5
And I'm going to throw this out there, I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but I think the Dodgers pulled some B.S. and I'm going to be really pissed off if they get away with it and it helps them win. I don't think Joe Kelly was hurt last night. I think they pulled that stunt because his pitch count was so high to begin with, then it allowed them to slow our momentum down while their next pitcher came in and got to warm up for a long team. Even though he had been throwing in the pen for 15 minutes already. Now by claiming Kelly is hurt they were able to add Price to the roster. I think they knew Scherzer was not right and I guess they'll use Price tomorrow night. He hasn't been real good, but if he does come out and give them 5 good innings tomorrow night I'm going to be really mad about it all.
I mentioned when they pulled him that it was BS. I 100% believe that premise and as much as I hate it, in some way it's just really smart way of playing the game outside of the game. Snit would never be that imaginative.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Oct 23, 2021 6:17:48 GMT -5
And I'm going to throw this out there, I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but I think the Dodgers pulled some B.S. and I'm going to be really pissed off if they get away with it and it helps them win. I don't think Joe Kelly was hurt last night. I think they pulled that stunt because his pitch count was so high to begin with, then it allowed them to slow our momentum down while their next pitcher came in and got to warm up for a long team. Even though he had been throwing in the pen for 15 minutes already. Now by claiming Kelly is hurt they were able to add Price to the roster. I think they knew Scherzer was not right and I guess they'll use Price tomorrow night. He hasn't been real good, but if he does come out and give them 5 good innings tomorrow night I'm going to be really mad about it all.
I mentioned when they pulled him that it was BS. I 100% believe that premise and as much as I hate it, in some way it's just really smart way of playing the game outside of the game. Snit would never be that imaginative. That’s cause Snit is more interested in beating you fair and square, not with a bunch of tricks and nonsense. We’re not the Astros, after all.
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Post by keystone61 on Oct 23, 2021 9:13:57 GMT -5
In memory of Al Davis, "just win, baby".
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