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Post by keystone61 on Aug 20, 2021 11:33:39 GMT -5
I like this move. Catchers are scarce, and IF he can stay healthy he's a pretty good one.
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Post by PABraveFan on Aug 20, 2021 11:47:44 GMT -5
I like this move. Catchers are scarce, and IF he can stay healthy he's a pretty good one. That's a bargain in my book! If you can pay Flowers $8M then you can pay d'Arnaud. If he can stay healthy that gives us two more years to develop a catcher or at least not to have to worry about that position for a while.
P.S. I think Morton, Dansby and Riley should be next. Smyly only if it's about $6M. Not sure I'd sign Pederson for $10M (maybe $6-7M) because I don't think he will be a full time player, especially when Acuna returns. If he's going to be an every day player in CF then maybe. Show Freddie you're serious.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Aug 20, 2021 12:17:20 GMT -5
Made that point. But woulda shoulda coulda doesn’t change the fact that the front office hasn’t made the necessary change. So, what is Snit to do? He was rightfully blamed earlier when he kept bringing in Matzek in blowouts. He has to use Tomlin there but somehow, he’s still an idiot for doing so. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t, I guess. You are not completely without a point here, but what Snit should have done a long time ago was call Tomlin into his office and cut him. It happens all the time. If you can't handle that part of the job, you shouldn't have the job. Tomlin himself probably wonders why he's still here. I don’t think Snit handles personnel moves. That would be the GMs job. His job is to manage the players he is given. If the team is going to insist on keeping Tomlin around, then Snit will have to use him and the other night was the best scenario for that to happen.
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Post by SuperBrave on Aug 20, 2021 12:46:39 GMT -5
"IF" we can sweep the Birds we might catapult ourselves close to another Eastern Division title!
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Post by bourjosgeorge on Aug 20, 2021 13:22:21 GMT -5
"IF" we can sweep the Birds we might catapult ourselves close to another Eastern Division title! Maybe, but let's don't count chickens until they hatch. I remember Chipper's last 10 regular season games. We lost all 10 and had to play St. Louis Urinals for the wild card,,,, Chipper's last game,,, the infield fly rule game.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Aug 20, 2021 13:35:09 GMT -5
Things we've learned this week: Even with an 8 run lead in the 9th a game is not DeTomlinized nor is it Smithproofed. And when I say “we” I’m not including Sargent Splatterpants in our group. Isn’t Tomlin exactly who you want pitching in that situation? Or would you rather burn a good reliever? Going to Tomlin there was the right move by Snit. The fact that he has that option is on the front office for not having the balls to cut the veteran pitcher who isn’t performing anymore. I really hope that when Anderson is ready, the front office cuts Tomlin and moves Touki to the pen. But we’ll see. No, I don’t want Tomlin pitching right there. I don’t want him pitching at all. Evar. That’s the whole point. It’s equally on Snitker for using him and the front office for still having him on the team. I don’t know how much say Snitker has on the roster but I believe he has some say in it. I’d much rather have seen Webb or Greene pitching in that spot. As bad as Greene was he was way better than Tomlin.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Aug 20, 2021 13:36:34 GMT -5
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Post by Fumbduckery on Aug 20, 2021 13:41:13 GMT -5
D’Arnaud gets new contract. That would be ok if he was going to be our backup. We have been happy for a long time have a rag tag pair of catchers on our team....I hope Langeliers can be ready next year, but I could see our manager giving the bulk of work to d’Arnaud even if he’s hitting .180.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Aug 20, 2021 13:46:25 GMT -5
You are not completely without a point here, but what Snit should have done a long time ago was call Tomlin into his office and cut him. It happens all the time. If you can't handle that part of the job, you shouldn't have the job. Tomlin himself probably wonders why he's still here. I don’t think Snit handles personnel moves. That would be the GMs job. His job is to manage the players he is given. If the team is going to insist on keeping Tomlin around, then Snit will have to use him and the other night was the best scenario for that to happen. I don’t see how you think you know that. We have no way of knowing because it’s never been talked about publicly. But I feel it’s a safe bet that Snitker has some level of input even if it’s minor. Whatever the case may be, I’d love to hear the reasoning behind it whoever is behind wanting to keep Tomlin on the team. I don’t see how anyone could make that argument.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Aug 20, 2021 13:47:16 GMT -5
Isn’t Tomlin exactly who you want pitching in that situation? Or would you rather burn a good reliever? Going to Tomlin there was the right move by Snit. The fact that he has that option is on the front office for not having the balls to cut the veteran pitcher who isn’t performing anymore. I really hope that when Anderson is ready, the front office cuts Tomlin and moves Touki to the pen. But we’ll see. No, I don’t want Tomlin pitching right there. I don’t want him pitching at all. Evar. That’s the whole point. It’s equally on Snitker for using him and the front office for still having him on the team. I don’t know how much say Snitker has on the roster but I believe he has some say in it. I’d much rather have seen Webb or Greene pitching in that spot. As bad as Greene was he was way better than Tomlin. So, why didn’t he go with Webb or Greene if they were the better options?
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Post by littlebeast1 on Aug 20, 2021 13:50:50 GMT -5
I don’t think Snit handles personnel moves. That would be the GMs job. His job is to manage the players he is given. If the team is going to insist on keeping Tomlin around, then Snit will have to use him and the other night was the best scenario for that to happen. I don’t see how you think you know that. We have no way of knowing because it’s never been talked about publicly. But I feel it’s a safe bet that Snitker has some level of input even if it’s minor. Whatever the case may be, I’d love to hear the reasoning behind it whoever is behind wanting to keep Tomlin on the team. I don’t see how anyone could make that argument. I didn’t say I knew that. I said I didn’t think Snit makes the roster decisions. Sure, he probably has some say in it. So, does that mean he should also get some credit for the new additions to the roster that have helped propel the team into first?
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Post by Fumbduckery on Aug 20, 2021 13:50:56 GMT -5
No, I don’t want Tomlin pitching right there. I don’t want him pitching at all. Evar. That’s the whole point. It’s equally on Snitker for using him and the front office for still having him on the team. I don’t know how much say Snitker has on the roster but I believe he has some say in it. I’d much rather have seen Webb or Greene pitching in that spot. As bad as Greene was he was way better than Tomlin. So, why didn’t he go with Webb or Greene if they were the better options? So you agree that Tomlin was a better option?
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Post by dirt on Aug 20, 2021 13:53:53 GMT -5
No, I don’t want Tomlin pitching right there. I don’t want him pitching at all. Evar. That’s the whole point. It’s equally on Snitker for using him and the front office for still having him on the team. I don’t know how much say Snitker has on the roster but I believe he has some say in it. I’d much rather have seen Webb or Greene pitching in that spot. As bad as Greene was he was way better than Tomlin. So, why didn’t he go with Webb or Greene if they were the better options? I believe they had dfa’d Greene and sent Webb down to make room for Ynoa.
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Post by littlebeast1 on Aug 20, 2021 13:55:47 GMT -5
So, why didn’t he go with Webb or Greene if they were the better options? So you agree that Tomlin was a better option? Better than Greene or Webb? Who were not on the roster? Absolutely.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Aug 20, 2021 14:02:11 GMT -5
No, I don’t want Tomlin pitching right there. I don’t want him pitching at all. Evar. That’s the whole point. It’s equally on Snitker for using him and the front office for still having him on the team. I don’t know how much say Snitker has on the roster but I believe he has some say in it. I’d much rather have seen Webb or Greene pitching in that spot. As bad as Greene was he was way better than Tomlin. So, why didn’t he go with Webb or Greene if they were the better options? This question really has me dumbfounded. The answer really is because either AA mandated that Tomlin be on the team and Snitker is enough of a mouse to go along with it, or AA and Snitker decided together that Tomlin should be on the team. Either way there’s no defending Snitker over it. It’s not like it’s a gray area. Tomlin is a disaster. The only possible use for him would be as an inning eater in games where we were getting blown out. NEVER when we’re ahead, even if it’s 100 runs. But why even waste a roster spot for that?
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