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Post by keystone61 on Aug 26, 2020 7:27:58 GMT -5
So appealing that their asking price will probably be ridiculous. Probably, but I'm not sure how nuts teams will go to try and win the church league championship. It'll be interesting to see what happens. The Braves could use a guy like Lynn the rest of this year and next year though, that's for sure.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Aug 26, 2020 9:46:24 GMT -5
Pache, Waters, Anderson and Mueller for Lynn and Danny Santana.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 11:56:37 GMT -5
Pache, Waters, Anderson and Mueller for Lynn and Danny Santana. Won't go that far, though we could use Lynn. I am sure you are being facetious, the two untouchables I see are the two outfielders. We have had such a failure with young pitchers I am scared to see any of them debut here, but that is just me. But the one that breaks the mode of failure might be the one we trade away so guess we have to see what Anderson and Mueller have and hope for the best - if one of them can have a Lance Lynn kind of career that is good, far better than we are getting from the likes of Wright, Touki, etc etc
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 12:01:31 GMT -5
Would you move Bryce Wilson or Touki for Gausman since he looks like the good Gausman this year
Not sure the Giants would get a whole lot more for him
As for this church league season well, hey, its still a championship for whomever wins it
No asterik for me everyone is playing by the same rules
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Post by littlebeast1 on Aug 26, 2020 12:31:21 GMT -5
So appealing that their asking price will probably be ridiculous. The fact that he leads the league in IP is very appealing to me. So sick of seeing our pen in the 4th or 5th inning.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 12:58:09 GMT -5
So appealing that their asking price will probably be ridiculous. The fact that he leads the league in IP is very appealing to me. So sick of seeing our pen in the 4th or 5th inning. If they would take Mr Walk Kyle Wright for him I would do it in a hearbeat. Let another team try to fix Wright hey, I am tired of his problems and waiting for him to supposedly get better Lance Lynn would accomplish more in a yr plus for us than Wright will in a whole career assuming he has much of a career coming up, other teams see his incompetence at the big level Wright is soft, move him if you can
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Post by TomlinFoolery on Aug 26, 2020 13:09:40 GMT -5
Would you move Bryce Wilson or Touki for Gausman since he looks like the good Gausman this year Not sure the Giants would get a whole lot more for him As for this church league season well, hey, its still a championship for whomever wins it No asterik for me everyone is playing by the same rules definitely would do that. Gausman was good 2 years ago, not so good last year--but not Touki/Wilson/Newcomb bad. If nothing else hw can give 5 innings more times than not. Might not always be good 5 innings, but its better than Toussaint, Wright, Wilson, Newcomb, and Foltynewicz.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Aug 26, 2020 13:54:08 GMT -5
So appealing that their asking price will probably be ridiculous. The fact that he leads the league in IP is very appealing to me. So sick of seeing our pen in the 4th or 5th inning. Funny thing about that, several days ago I posted the leaders for the Cy Young award in both leagues, and all the way down the line the very best pitchers in all of baseball were all averaging right at 6 IP per outing. That’s amazing and ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 16:21:06 GMT -5
The fact that he leads the league in IP is very appealing to me. So sick of seeing our pen in the 4th or 5th inning. Funny thing about that, several days ago I posted the leaders for the Cy Young award in both leagues, and all the way down the line the very best pitchers in all of baseball were all averaging right at 6 IP per outing. That’s amazing and ridiculous. That is what you call 21st century sabermetric analysis baseball. When the philosophy of the game is to the point that you supposedly cannot have a SP face the lineup for a third time this is what you get We did not know how good we had it watching the game we grew up with Too many people think like the annoying Brian Kenny & its permeated into pitcher development
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 16:25:01 GMT -5
We went for it trading for Martin, Melocon, Greene, etc. No more of that if it involves Anderson or Ferris Bueller. When you think about it other than Wentz who is still not a sure thing our brain trust did not give up that much and those guys are still solid with us And I trust Alex will not be stupid - Anderson just might be the one we will love after a few starts, lets see if he is mature enough to trust his stuff and not be afraid to throw strikes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 1:51:17 GMT -5
Maybe Cole Hamels will be one of our solutions to the SP issues, have not heard much lately except that from the radio announcers he could be ready in early September.
And we know what the good Folty can do. Newk belongs in the pen, we have seen enough history on him.
Anderson is his first start is sure a big boost great feel good though we need to see more.
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Post by PABraveFan on Aug 27, 2020 7:40:22 GMT -5
Maybe Cole Hamels will be one of our solutions to the SP issues, have not heard much lately except that from the radio announcers he could be ready in early September. And we know what the good Folty can do. Newk belongs in the pen, we have seen enough history on him. Anderson is his first start is sure a big boost great feel good though we need to see more. I read somewhere that Cole Hamels has yet to throw off a mound.
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Post by keystone61 on Aug 27, 2020 7:40:49 GMT -5
It'd be nice if Anderson can provide stability in the rotation, but it's only 1 game, albeit a very good one. I can't understand why Wright, Touki, and Newcomb can't throw strikes. Giving up a solo shot occasionally is a helluva lot better than walking a bunch of people and walking a tightrope all the time. Some guys just never learn to command their pitches, I guess. I'm still holding out hope, but something has to change soon for those guys.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 9:33:47 GMT -5
Maybe Cole Hamels will be one of our solutions to the SP issues, have not heard much lately except that from the radio announcers he could be ready in early September. And we know what the good Folty can do. Newk belongs in the pen, we have seen enough history on him. Anderson is his first start is sure a big boost great feel good though we need to see more. I read somewhere that Cole Hamels has yet to throw off a mound. If that is the case then its not good. It makes sense in that if he was anywhere close to healthy one would think he would already be out there by now considering the SP issues. Maybe we cannot count on him - that was a well intentioned move that did not work out & he did not come cheap. At least it was only for one yr
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 9:40:29 GMT -5
I can't understand why Wright, Touki, and Newcomb can't throw strikes. Giving up a solo shot occasionally is a helluva lot better than walking a bunch of people and walking a tightrope all the time. Some guys just never learn to command their pitches, I guess. I'm still holding out hope, but something has to change soon for those guys. Maybe they are not good enough for the MLB level, there are plenty of young pitchers out there who have the stuff but never master the command of their pitches. They all have outstanding talent at some level, but only the best of the best become real good MLB starting pitchers. And yes, we do need to see more of Anderson to get completely giddy about him but got to like the mound presence. I don't know about Wright but he has been such a disappointment in 40 innings pitched at this level. Is this what he is? We have more of a book on Newcomb and Touki they are what they are. Guess we will have a more complete book on Wright next yr in what hopes to be a more normal yr, but if he does not improve we probably have a bust
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