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Post by Fumbduckery on Apr 17, 2024 19:13:48 GMT -5
Loving the sweep of the Asstros!!!
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hokiedan
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Post by hokiedan on Apr 17, 2024 19:24:24 GMT -5
Even with the sky is falling attitudes around here, the Braves continue to win. Always feels good to sweep the Astros. Meanwhile, the division is playing better than expected. Especially the Nats who just took two out of three from the Dodgers and the Mets who just swept the red hot Pirates. Should be an interesting season. I think that's a misrepresentation of what's been going. There's been plenty of chatter about the concerns regarding our starting pitching. Are you ok with where it stands and how fragile it is right now? Even if we have no more injury problems it's pretty shaky. Oh I agree...the Braves are on very thin ice when it comes to starting pitching...but then so is everyone else. The difference for the Braves is that that have an incredible offense. That's going to win you a lot of games, especially during the regular season. But as we've seen, that does not necessarily translate to success in the post season. Something's gotta give or the Braves will be out early in the playoffs again. |
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Post by wncbravesfan on Apr 17, 2024 19:54:02 GMT -5
Col 6
Phil 7
Top 9th, runner on 2nd, 2 out, 2-2 count
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Post by wncbravesfan on Apr 17, 2024 19:57:22 GMT -5
Col 6
Phil 7
FINAL
Phillies sweep Rox
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Post by Fumbduckery on Apr 17, 2024 20:11:46 GMT -5
I think that's a misrepresentation of what's been going. There's been plenty of chatter about the concerns regarding our starting pitching. Are you ok with where it stands and how fragile it is right now? Even if we have no more injury problems it's pretty shaky. Oh I agree...the Braves are on very thin ice when it comes to starting pitching...but then so is everyone else. The difference for the Braves is that that have an incredible offense. That's going to win you a lot of games, especially during the regular season. But as we've seen, that does not necessarily translate to success in the post season. Something's gotta give or the Braves will be out early in the playoffs again. My thing is even though everybody has pitching problems, we could have taken a whole lot less risk in the offseason to keep ourselves from being shaky. It wasn't like we needed #1 or #2 starters, just a couple of solid reliable back end rotation starters, which was doable then, but not so much now. |
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Post by keystone61 on Apr 17, 2024 21:25:32 GMT -5
Thank God for the win today... But can I just say that Fried is as pedestrian as ever. He'll win the occasional game you need to win, but he is not elite. Far from it. Every time he takes to the mound his pitch counts are through the roof and simply is not what we thought he was. Dare I say he has regressed. Not sure what his value is, but it surely isn't what he thinks it is. With his somewhat injury riddled past and lack of dominance... it's buyer beware at this point. Maybe AA was on to something. Fried is one in those little skinny dudes that don't age well. Give me big sturdy dudes all day long, especially pitchers. |
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Apr 17, 2024 22:52:25 GMT -5
Oh I agree...the Braves are on very thin ice when it comes to starting pitching...but then so is everyone else. The difference for the Braves is that that have an incredible offense. That's going to win you a lot of games, especially during the regular season. But as we've seen, that does not necessarily translate to success in the post season. Something's gotta give or the Braves will be out early in the playoffs again. My thing is even though everybody has pitching problems, we could have taken a whole lot less risk in the offseason to keep ourselves from being shaky. It wasn't like we needed #1 or #2 starters, just a couple of solid reliable back end rotation starters, which was doable then, but not so much now. Until they actually breakdown, aren't Sale and Lopez pretty solid back end rotation guys? I know many think that it's going to happen, but as of right now they are exactly what you are saying we should have gotten and here we are already shaky. I don't think any team loses their #1 and doesn't become instantly shaky. I just mean I'm not sure there's much of anything we could have done to not become shaky after losing Strider. That's a pretty big matzah ball to have fall off your plate. |
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Post by Fumbduckery on Apr 18, 2024 0:02:23 GMT -5
My thing is even though everybody has pitching problems, we could have taken a whole lot less risk in the offseason to keep ourselves from being shaky. It wasn't like we needed #1 or #2 starters, just a couple of solid reliable back end rotation starters, which was doable then, but not so much now. Until they actually breakdown, aren't Sale and Lopez pretty solid back end rotation guys? I know many think that it's going to happen, but as of right now they are exactly what you are saying we should have gotten and here we are already shaky. I don't think any team loses their #1 and doesn't become instantly shaky. I just mean I'm not sure there's much of anything we could have done to not become shaky after losing Strider. That's a pretty big matzah ball to have fall off your plate. Yes until they breakdown. The problem is, in my opinion, smart money would say there's an 80% chance Sale will end up missing a significant amount of time this year, given his age and his health problems over the last 4-5 years. Smart money would think that Lopez will wear down from the innings as the season goes on. That doesn't mean either thing will happen, but it's pretty likely both will happen in my opinion. Given the strength of our offense, I would have opted for at least one more guy who is likely to make it through the season healthy.....he doesn't have to be a top 3 pitcher, just a guy or two we could have said that the odds were in our favor they would make it through the season healthy and be better than our gaggle of AAA starters.
The loss of Strider would be brutal no matter how well we had prepared, but look how even more vulnerable we are now. Charlie is old and could very easily suck or get hurt, Fried is not looking right, we are really fragile now with our starting pitching and we could have put the odds more in our favor we wouldn't have so vulnerable. If we had taken less risk and put the odds in our favor we'd still be better off than we are now with Strider's loss, and holy hell look where we'll be if we lose just one more starter. The way we went into the season we needed absolutely no injuries to our staff and we needed Lopez to pan out and hold up. It was too much of a risk for me and we got penalized right away. We needed a better backup plan with our SP and we had none, taking a crazy chance our SP would have no problems.
Even with a backup plan things might have gone astray, but I like always putting the odds in my favor, not against me. I thought Marco Gonzalez was a perfect guy for that #5 spot, but he was always part of a different plan, and he's hurt now too. So one can never tell for sure, but I always like the odds in my favor as much as I can get them.
And for the record, I've never wanted to be wrong so much in my life, I pray that Sale holds up and Lopez can handle the innings load so things can go smoothly. I'm just so sick of the fill in Dodd/Shuster/ et al gang in our rotation.
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Post by Hart's Middle Finger on Apr 18, 2024 8:06:38 GMT -5
Oh I know you will not be happy to be correct about the situation and sincerely hope you are wrong.
There are some people who would rather be right with their dire predictions just so they can pound their chest and mock others for
being more optimistic, but that's not you.
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Post by Fumbduckery on Apr 18, 2024 9:32:47 GMT -5
Oh I know you will not be happy to be correct about the situation and sincerely hope you are wrong. There are some people who would rather be right with their dire predictions just so they can pound their chest and mock others for being more optimistic, but that's not you. I’ve been posting on forums over 20 years, there’s things no one should ever brag about—being “right” when there was a really good chance what you said would happen happens. The time to brag is when you can predict something unlikely and then it happens. And one should never brag when their prediction is something that would hurt the team. And I know there are people who root for it even though it hurts the team. The whole reason I’m bothered by it is because I don’t want to win 15 division titles again and just win one World Series again. We should walk away with a minimum of three with this player core. The managering guy is a big enough hinderance, we don’t other major problems like starting pitching. I get what you’re saying and I agree any team would be taking a massive hit and become shaky by losing their ace this early in the season, but now we’re one more injury from the rotation being ultra super duper shaky. Having run a very successful business for 30 years, you always have to be prepared in advance to take a worst case scenario hit and still be as stable as possible. Try to be ready and stocked up in case it happens. I would have gone for a more stable option with less upside than Sale and used that money we spent on LF for another good starter. I’m rooting for Kelenic but he’s already showing signs they are eating his lunch with a lot of change ups. He can’t pick it up. He got a big hit on one the other night but that’s because the pitch was left up and was real hittable. I’ve seen enough already to be concerned. Some writer said a week ago he was striking at the best rate of his career, but now it’s suddenly up to 35%, worse than his career 31% rate. |
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Post by wncbravesfan on Apr 18, 2024 9:51:20 GMT -5
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Most consecutive at-bats without a homer to start a year following a 40-HR season (from MLB Network research staff)
2022 Marcus Semien 173
1962 Rocky Colavito 100
2007 Alfonso Soriano 74
1997 Frank Thomas 74
2024 Ronald Acuna Jr. 64
1999 Juan Gonzalez 64
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Post by wncbravesfan on Apr 18, 2024 9:52:13 GMT -5
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AJ Smith-Shawver had a much improved performance today in his third start for Triple-A Gwinnett vs. Memphis: 4 2/3 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 3 K (63/42)
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Post by joeyg39 on Apr 19, 2024 7:02:26 GMT -5
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman · 20h Most consecutive at-bats without a homer to start a year following a 40-HR season (from MLB Network research staff) 2022 Marcus Semien 173 1962 Rocky Colavito 100 2007 Alfonso Soriano 74 1997 Frank Thomas 74 2024 Ronald Acuna Jr. 64 1999 Juan Gonzalez 64 Not too shabby company to be associated with...Ronald has nothing to worry about... |
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